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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 06:57 AM Oct 2014

Last night I walked out of a debate between Congressman Tim Bishop (NY 1)...

and Lee Zeldin, his Republican challenger.

The first thing I noticed was maybe a hundred Zeldin signs outside of Polish Hall, where the debate was held. I though there as an agreement not to plaster the place with signs, but I guess I was wrong. A lot of Zeldin t-shirts, too. Then, during the debate, the Zeldin supporters were going nuts. Everything he said got wild hoots, screams, and applause. A few people seemed enraged at Bishop and called him out. It got to the point where they threatened with expulsion.

I was at another debate in the same place a week ago between two guys running for a state office, and while the crowd was almost as big, it was much more civil and balanced.

So, what was different about this one? What caused the forces of rage and anger to come out to a Congressional debate?

That the audience was 100% white might be a hint. Riverhead has a sizable black population, and it is politically aware, but nary a one showed up. I can't speak for them and their absence, but I sure would like to know who is working the "Angry White Guy" angle. They were out in force last night.


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Last night I walked out of a debate between Congressman Tim Bishop (NY 1)... (Original Post) TreasonousBastard Oct 2014 OP
Astroturfed ? nt Half-Century Man Oct 2014 #1
Possibly.... elzenmahn Oct 2014 #4
there's a lot more racism on LI than most people realize tk2kewl Oct 2014 #2
The Klan was big here in the 20's and it's seeing a revival... TreasonousBastard Oct 2014 #3
I'm not from there.... JohnnyRingo Oct 2014 #5
Zeldin Campaign bused in supporters. monk3007 Oct 2014 #6
That appears to be their strategy Rhiannon12866 Oct 2014 #7
Same thing happened here... TreasonousBastard Oct 2014 #8
It's possible it was the same group, or the same organizers Rhiannon12866 Oct 2014 #10
That makes sense-- it looked too planned to be just locals. TreasonousBastard Oct 2014 #9

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
4. Possibly....
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:43 AM
Oct 2014

...this has shades of the town hall meetings for years ago, when the Teabillies were out in force, hooting it up.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
3. The Klan was big here in the 20's and it's seeing a revival...
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 08:43 AM
Oct 2014
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/kkk-recruiting-hamptons-article-1.1915500

The better thing now is that most people have no use for this crap. It hasn't gone away, but it's far from mainstream and more people turn the bastids in than sign up.

But, still too many hate in the shadows.

JohnnyRingo

(18,641 posts)
5. I'm not from there....
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 09:59 AM
Oct 2014

...so I can't opine on local voter sentiment, but I'll bet this wasn't the first time those people got together. It has all the earmarks of a staged stunt.

Since it only happened at this debate, it was likely coordinated by the candidate's office.

Rhiannon12866

(206,067 posts)
7. That appears to be their strategy
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 09:26 PM
Oct 2014

During the 2010 congressional election in my district (NY-20), they did the same thing, bused in dozens of red shirted disruptors to support the Republican candidate. Strangely, they attacked the Democratic incumbent for voting in favor of health care reform.

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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
8. Same thing happened here...
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 09:51 PM
Oct 2014

They attacked Bishop so mecilessly at one campaign stop in Greenport back then that he stopped publicizing his stops. You got a notice he'd be in the area and then that AM you got where and when.

Rhiannon12866

(206,067 posts)
10. It's possible it was the same group, or the same organizers
Fri Oct 10, 2014, 10:28 PM
Oct 2014

They were easy to spot since they all wore red shirts and hats and I saw the buses parked outside. This was the single debate between Democratic incumbent Scott Murphy and tea party challenger Chris Gibson. Despite numerous warnings (League of Women Voters), they did a lot of shouting and booing and seemed to be particularly upset about Scott's vote in favor of health care reform, despite being mostly senior citizens. They weren't too thrilled with his support of repealing DADT, either. It was particularly suspicious since this took place on Scott Murphy's home turf. And it was hard for me to take since I was working for him.

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