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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 04:32 PM Aug 2014

Hillary’s overlooked ’16 worry: Will she write off the anti-interventionist left again?

For all the talk about her positioning around inequality, her foreign policy may alienate voters she needs in '16

JOAN WALSH


Political mischief-makers are having a lot of fun with Jeffrey Goldberg’s Hillary Clinton interview, published Saturday night for maximum Monday morning OMG predictability. I admit: That makes me instinctively inclined to minimize the fissures between Clinton and President Obama that Goldberg widened into chasms to conform with his own political worldview.

Except I can’t entirely. Because Clinton and her team are smart enough to know that’s exactly what Goldberg would do. Which means that’s what they wanted him to do.

It’s important to note that there’s almost nothing new in the Goldberg interview. We already knew that Clinton is somewhat more hawkish than Obama. Specifically, we knew that as secretary of state she backed arming “moderate Syrian rebels,” took a maximalist approach to Iran sanctions, and was sometimes uncomfortable leaning on Benjamin Netanyahu the way Obama wanted, because she’s already told us. Here’s the best take on the way Goldberg and, more important, lots of pundits have exaggerated those differences.

Clinton also can’t be blamed for the timing of its publication – the weekend Obama ordered U.S. airstrikes in Iraq to set back ISIS, which enraged the right and the left for different reasons and satisfied practically no one. President John McCain, making a rare appearance on the Sunday shows, was certainly not impressed. But Clinton gave the interview before the crisis escalated.

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http://www.salon.com/2014/08/11/hillarys_overlooked_16_worry_will_she_write_off_the_anti_interventionist_left_again/
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Hillary’s overlooked ’16 worry: Will she write off the anti-interventionist left again? (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2014 OP
she could just run as a republican and let democrats nominate someone else nt msongs Aug 2014 #1
Republicans loathe her oberliner Aug 2014 #11
Remember Operation Chaos? AtomicKitten Aug 2014 #16
Biggest question of all, why should Hillary or any candidate do anything the prior president Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #2
Do we need several Pre-Primary Debates in the D. Party? Do not see it happening though. DhhD Aug 2014 #3
Yes I want to see HCR V (Rep. Alan Grayson or Warren or Sanders) on the issues Vincardog Aug 2014 #4
Grayson, Warren and Sanders on the issues Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #8
This is two years away, we still have 2014 elections, do you know anyone who declared? Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #5
That I agree with. nt Hekate Aug 2014 #7
Exactly!!! Beacool Aug 2014 #15
If DU is any indication, "anti-interventionist Left" needs some qualification Hekate Aug 2014 #6
She will never get my vote bigwillq Aug 2014 #9
Do you have a candidate of choice? oberliner Aug 2014 #12
Not really. bigwillq Aug 2014 #14
Yeah, sure, because anyone else running is not about their ego. Beacool Aug 2014 #13
DINO blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #10
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. Republicans loathe her
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:12 PM
Aug 2014

Do you remember the primary way back when Obama won originally? It was full on war from the Republicans - whatever they could dredge up.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
16. Remember Operation Chaos?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 08:22 PM
Aug 2014

In the end it didn't matter. It didn't move the dial much. Hillary gladly accepted the votes to boost her total. No harm no foul.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. Biggest question of all, why should Hillary or any candidate do anything the prior president
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 04:54 PM
Aug 2014

Did or did not do? Obama has had his agenda, the Bushes had their agenda, Bill Clinton had his agenda, Reagan had his agenda. Is it because there is a possibility there may be a female running for president. Judge the female candidates the same as the male candidates. It is bad enough Democratic candidates are being bashed on DU. If most would search as hard for good things as the same old RW talking points it just may be the truth can arise.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. This is two years away, we still have 2014 elections, do you know anyone who declared?
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 05:58 PM
Aug 2014

Why do we need to feed into the GOP frenzy? They will have enough lies without us feeding them.

Beacool

(30,249 posts)
15. Exactly!!!
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:12 AM
Aug 2014

She will have her agenda. She will not be a clone of Obama or even her husband. She is more than entitled to voice her policy disagreements with Obama where they did disagree. If some people don't like it, so be it.

Hekate

(90,710 posts)
6. If DU is any indication, "anti-interventionist Left" needs some qualification
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 06:27 PM
Aug 2014

There's quite a bloc here who wants us to have boots on the ground ASAP every time there's a massacre/genocide someplace in the world.

Just sayin'

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
9. She will never get my vote
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 10:06 PM
Aug 2014

I hope she decides not to run, but her ego will not allow it I am afraid.

Beacool

(30,249 posts)
13. Yeah, sure, because anyone else running is not about their ego.
Tue Aug 12, 2014, 09:26 AM
Aug 2014

And that includes the man who sits in the WH right now. What did he have, 2 years experience as Senator?



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