2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumGeorge Will's odd column about Sherrod Brown and progressives
"Sherrod Brown is the odd man out with Democrats," says the 2nd-rate Todd Akin. Because:
Brown, however, looks, sounds and acts like a real, as opposed to faculty club, leftist. Although he is a Yale graduate, he has the rumpled look and hoarse voice of someone who spent last night on Paris barricades, exhorting les miserables to chuck cobblestones at the forces defending property. And he is not just talk.
As a congressman in 2003 on what was then the House Committee on International Relations, he, unlike Sen. Clinton, was impeccably right in opposing what became the worst foreign policy blunder in U.S. history, the invasion of Iraq. He was unpersuaded by the supposed evidence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and said President George W. Bush had not answered questions about the wars cost, the occupation and probable Iraqi civilian deaths (which turned out to be more than 125,000).
And he ends with this bizarre closing statement:
This guy...why is he still employed with the Post?
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Will is basically Chance the Gardener with a good vocabulary and a reasonable grasp of sentence and paragraph structure.
Cosmocat
(14,565 posts)it always mystifies me when the right screams about intellectual elites - I see more highfalutin crackpot republican mouthpieces like Will than I can even begin to try to keep track.
It is still the same for these clowns - they work from their end point, the evil liberal boogyman, and build whatever rationalization they can to justify the nonsense they cling to as their "conservative principles."
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)His whole article is just mystical BS
It is almost as if he realized his view on conservatism is wrong and he does not know what to do,
so let's write some crazy stuff just to fill up my column.
FSogol
(45,488 posts)Ryan, or Rick Perry and it terrifies him. Wonder if one day we'll be reading about FBI the digging up his backyard?
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)... so almost every day I have to make the choice to read or not to read G. Free-Dreck Swill. Every once in a while I take a peek at the first sentence or so... and that cures me of my curiosity.
stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)George Will is kind of damning Brown with faint praise here, but Will's barbed praise shouldn't detract from the fact that Sherrod Brown has been an awesome and consistent populist senator. He'd be a terrific president.
for the most part, he is what a Democrat SHOULD be ...
sendero
(28,552 posts)... if I live that long, I don't get stupid like this douche nozzle. Frankly, I'd rather be dead.
JHB
(37,160 posts)...hypocritical sexism for snubbing two prominent women.
BREAKING: Liberals don't act in the way George Will thinks they should act! Film at 11!
alp227
(32,026 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)Fair Trade is not "protectionism lite". That's cliche Steve Forbes/Thomas Friedman False Dilemma nonsense. The data released since the late 80s proves that this scheme has NOT been a net/net win for workers.
http://economyincrisis.org/content/free-trade-fair-trade-whats-the-difference
http://www.epi.org/publication/trade-pacts-korus-trans-pacific-partnership/
http://www.citizen.org/documents/flawed-NAFTA-deficit.pdf
http://citizen.org/documents/press-release-NAFTA-at-20.pdf
lanlady
(7,134 posts)Is guilty of pecksniffian sanctimony.
(Now, what the hell is it?)
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Seeing as Warren has made it clear she doesn't want to run, people should try to draft him.
brooklynite
(94,587 posts)I know his family; I asked.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Even though the person who made the allegations is on good terms with him and even campigns with him, it might be something he doesn't want the GOP to spew 24/7 in a national campaign.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)Interested also has nothing to do with consideration. Warren has stated she isn't running on several occasions but is often considered.
I think he might have hit blind squirrel mode a little bit. There is an identity bias with some and little focus on policy some others.
brooklynite
(94,587 posts)I have no problem with anyone who wants to run against Clinton. But the more the anti-Clinton folks dream of candidates that aren;t going to step up, the more disapointed they're going to be when the voting starts.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)The point being Brown seems the much better bet if you are going to Draft someone. We are talking a multi term Senator from a key swing state with a hell of a track record going back to terms in the House and Warren is a former Republican greenhorn from Massachusetts.
That isn't an attack on Warren, it is a comparison of the birds in hand. Just as a hypothetical, pretend both are interested, why would Warren be preferred over someone who has proven they can win statewide in Ohio multiple times with his track record on the issues pretty much across the board? It isn't rocket science.
TeamPooka
(24,228 posts)bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)I'm a woman and a progressive (of the populist variety) and I would vote for Sherrod Brown over Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary.
danriker
(52 posts)I like Brown a lot, but I don't know a great deal about his background. So, I don't know if there are things - one mentioned in this thread - that might preclude this. But I think he would make a great running mate for Clinton.
I am not advocating Clinton. I would prefer a true progressive, but if she is inevitable, as the polls seem to indicate, a progressive running mate would make sense, particularly one from Ohio. The Democrats need to win Ohio and this might go a long ways towards doing that.
This idea had not occurred to me until I read Will's column, which I thought smacked of mischief making of some kind, but I don't know what that might be. He also wrote a column about that idiot doctor running against Merkley here in Oregon in which he suggested she had a real chance to win. I don't think there is any chance of that happening, but the Kochs certainly are trying to make it happen.