GOP's 'Hillary Fatigue' Meme Unravels Even More With New Poll Findings

[DonViejo]

ByTOM KLUDTPublishedJULY 19, 2014, 11:02 AM EDT

Gallup released findings earlier this week indicating that Hillary Clinton is by far the best-known and most popular 2016 contender, which wouldn't be too notable if Republicans hadn't spent last month claiming that the country is tired of the former secretary of state.

The survey showed that 91 percent of American adults are familiar with Clinton, and 55 percent have a favorable opinion of her. Clinton's numbers in both categories far exceed potential GOP rivals like Chris Christie, Rand Paul and Jeb Bush.

And Gallup noted that, although Clinton's popularity has declined as she's moved from her relatively non-political role at the State Department, her standing remains stronger than in July of 2006 — a year-and-half before she ran her first presidential campaign.

Essentially, the poll represents a continuation of a steady trend. But it also serves as counter-evidence to Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus, who provided no evidence late last month when he insisted that the country is sick of Clinton.

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/gallup-poll-hillary-clinton-well-known-best-liked-fatigue-meme

[Wounded Bear]

1. The Repub problem is...

that they're running out of sock puppets to put up as pseudo-leaders to run for the Presidency. What they have now are a bunch of multiple time losers, or relative unknowns whose claim to fame usually involves some kind of scandal or extremist bullshit. For all of their rhetoric, they don't have a credible candidate yet, and repeating the clown car searches of the last two cycles perpetuates the sense that the inmates are running the asylum.

[craigmatic]

6. All that's true but 2016 is going to be a hard race for us just like any race after a 2 term POTUS.

People will be looking for change if Obama's numbers are low. I think we will have a problem if they nominate Rubio because he looks like the future and he's right on immigration. Plus his pro-capitalist bullshit sounds convincing if you don't think too hard about it. Of course he probably couldn't win nomination because he's latino but just imagine him running with a blue state repub like snyder, walker or Kaisch. That would give Hillary a hard time.

[Trajan]

26. Rubio isn't 'right' about anything

He is wrong from the time he awakes til the time he nods off in his barcalounger in front of his tv set ....

Methinks thou dost lost your way ...

[1StrongBlackMan]

32. Please don't buy into the gop mythologyregarding Rubio ...

Of course he probably couldn't win nomination because he's latino but just imagine him running with a blue state repub like snyder, walker or Kaisch.

He is Cuban, which yes, is Hispanic; but his being of Cuban descent is unlikely to draw him many Hispanic votes, outside of Miami (and surrounding areas) and to a much lesser degree, New York. In fact, much of the Hispanic community in America, does not have a lot of love for Cubans because of the U.S.'s immigration policies.

[GeorgeGist]

2. Regarding Mr. Piebus ...

Republicans expect their fantasies to be stated as facts.

[DFW]

7. More like:

They expect their fantasies to get accepted as facts (e.g. Fox Noise) and get all worked up when it doesn't work.

[deafskeptic]

3. I guess the GOP are helping her win this race. They're way overdue for a reality check. n/t

[Cosmocat]

4. They literally have spent a quarter century defaming

Hillary Clinton.

If this country had even the first lick of sense it would tune out whatever these asshats have to say about her.

Sadly ...

[Rstrstx]

10. Look on the bright side

Nobody can say she hasn't been vetted

[billhicks76]

5. So What?

She's a horrible corporate stooge whose motivation for running is selfish and egotistical. She supported the right wing coup in Honduras and has a real problem with making things up.

[apnu]

8. Yes, all of that is true. She's still 100% better than any Republican.

Do you really think things would be the same with any Republican in office?

Pick any one... Christie, Romney, Paul, Ryan, Rubio... Are the the same as Hillary?

Full Disclosure: I am an early supporter of Obama, never sided with Clinton on the 2008 primary.

[billhicks76]

11. I Hear You But...

There is an argument to be made that in the long run its better not to have a Democrat that behaves like a Republican.

[Hekate]

12. What argument would that be? Surely you're not echoing Ralphie Nader in 2000.

(Aside from the fact that I personally disagree with your take on Hillary "behaving like a Republican.&quot

Hekate
*Still have not yet filled in my ballot for 2016

[billhicks76]

15. Ok

The power and wealth has always resided on the Right. They maintain this power within our electoral system that is easily manipulated with bribes and fraud. But as people temporarily wake up the pendulum swings to the Left. The Right knows it will swing back especially if they can discredit and disrupt properly. To ensure efficiency they try and install Leaders on the Left who will be friendly to corporate America and war profiteers. These are essentially turncoats who subsist off of personal gain, status and access. Cultural divisions are exploited to maintain the appearance of variation between the parties but at the highest level it's just a mirage in a desert of deceit and untruth. Now back to your point...sometimes because of their hubris these power brokers overreach and piss off more than their traditional adversaries. When this occurs as under Bush it's important for them to let someone rise on the Left that appears to oppose them forcefully but doesn't under the fake verneer. People could wake up and realize this is a cycle that ensures little change but they don't when they buy into the concept that things are changing even when they are not. You say it's still better to have a Democrat that acts like a Republican but true change doesn't happen at the cocktail parties or in the smokey back rooms. It comes from the grassroots. The biggest thing Obama accomplished was neutering the anti-war, anti-corporate, pro-environmental movement because since people thoughts things were all better because Obama was in they decided they didn't need to fight any longer like they used to. Obama defused an angry population sick of business as usual. If McCain had won it would've been all over after 4 more years of Republican mess ups and their party would never had recovered. Obama by "looking forward" and not holding the criminals from the recent past accountable basically rehabilitated the Republican brand letting it live to thrive another day when the pendulum swings back again. Obama's incompetence has made an opening for a Republican to swindle people into electing them in 2016. When Bush was in office we fought hard for our principles but now we are complacent because people erroneously assumed things are better just because our guy is the figurehead now.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

17. Well said.

This should be its own OP.

You might want to break it up into paragraphs; it's hard to read in a big block like this. Nevertheless, I did read it and I agree with everything you've said.

[billhicks76]

18. Thank You and Sorry

I end up commenting on the go from my phone. It's hard to be presentable that way but I'll try to do paragraphs. You're not the first to tell me that.

[libodem]

24. Peggy is right Bill

That was a fine piece of writing. Give it a nice catchy title and some paragraphs, and Atlantic Monthly will be hunting you down.

[Tarheel_Dem]

28. What fresh new word salad hell is this? "Obama's incompetence"? Ralph Nader 2016?

[billhicks76]

33. Nice Try

The old Nader specter again. What next?Darth Ron Paul and the intergalactic Libertarian elite guard on the move? Seen this movie.

[Tarheel_Dem]

34. You Better Believe It!

[billhicks76]

35. I Believe Truth And Reality

Though they may be subjective it's painfully obvious that we need a better candidate than war mongering and drug war oppressing Hillary. Biden needs to retire and we can thank him for mandatory minimum drug sentences in the 80s when he supported Bush and Reagan. Don't let Rand Paul have all those legalization and antiNSA votes. I know way too many people that will vote on those two issues alone as they DIRECTLY affect so many Americans and their families.

[brooklynite]

9. Whereas the "Hillary fatigue" here at DU seems to be roaring on...

[Hekate]

13. The allegedly fatigued seem to have endless energy in their pursuits. Roaring on indeed. nt

Hekate
*Still have not filled in my ballot for 2016.

[Beacool]

25. That's why I can barely be bothered to pop my head in here anymore.

The whole thing is over the top and tiresome.

[Moejo31]

14. Clinton fatigue , aka help

I actually I am not sure how to begin
I've got In laws that love Ron Paul who are pushing Hillary & bill clinton fatigue
Here's his handy work http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exposed-bill-clinton-paternity-bombshell-im-not-chelseas-real-dad
& http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/06/02/the-hillary-show

He just went off on me
Here's his reply anyone want to help me with a reply

No wonder politics turns people off.. Hillary has her well-funded war machine of PR people try and change the facts and reignite stories for sympathy.. If America wants an open marriage for President as an example for strengthening the fabric of the nation, they will get it with Hillary but with a price tag. She and Obama have created more abortions than jobs in their tenure. They certainly did not waste an opportunity to add a 1$ Trillion / year permanent deficit during the Great Recession so they could replace high paying jobs with lower paying ones. Promises of universal healthcare she touted during Bill's presidency falls short and causes higher premiums for working folks with less good healthcare access. Continuing to blame Israel for defending its borders and giving more money $3.5B to PLO who is linked to terrorist organizations rather than helping your average American struggling.. Selling arms to countries who end up turning against American interests. Clinton can't wait to prove herself and get us in another expensive and useless conflict. Roll out the carpet for Generals and get them on board with presidency...

[BuckeyeBrad]

19. Very educational...

I wasn't aware Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State was so focused on job and abortion creation(however that works, lol). I also want aware Clinton and the administration were taking such a hard line against Israel what with the massive amounts of public money we're still giving them and the public statements of support from our current SoS.

Seriously though, your in laws sound like a huge pain in all our asses. You have my sympathies. Clinton is a politician with a long career. How intellectually lazy do you have to be to dedicate so much effort and anger towards a politician and not be able to find even one actual thing she has done or said to harp on? Instead they couldn't even be bothered to come up with a single factual statement to give their opinion a bit of credibility.

[Moejo31]

22. Appreciate it

Yes thanks man

[Amonester]

16. Clinton/Warren 2016 :)

My dream-team ticket!

[Thinkingabout]

20. The DNC is in a very good position, we have several possible candidates in which to choose, we do

not need the help of the GOP. Hell no they do not want Hillary to run. The polls do not have any Republican which can win against her. The GOP platform is a failure, only catering to a smaller base, what the Democrats has to do is GOTV, we have more numbers and there is a way to win. Hillary has a long record of civil rights, women's issues, foreign experience, experience in Congress, experience on the Cabinet, lots of pluses in her column. Yep, they do not have a counter for her.

[Tarheel_Dem]

27. Clinton/Castro 2016! Unbeatable!

[brooklynite]

29. My only concern...

...is whether Castro's star gets diminished at HUD (not exactly a platform for fiery rhetoric and policy-making).

[Thinkingabout]

30. There are two Castro, they are twins, one mayorof San Antonio and one a representative.

[jamzrockz]

21. The republicans have a clown car full of potential candidates

everything from neocons, establishment types, moderates, tea party, libertarians and social cons and we have Hilary. I don't know about you guys, but I wont mind a deeper roster than we have now

[customerserviceguy]

31. At some point the GOP establishment

is going to conclude that Christie and Jebbie are not going to get the Rethug nomination, and that Hillary will be inevitable, so they're just going to save their money, get the hell out of Rand Paul's way, and let his staggering loss to her help them bury the tea party.

Besides, they can live with her. Especially if they take all that saved money, and use it to buy more Representatives and Senators in purple places, to act as a check on her.

[Sunlei]

23. all you republicans rag on her for another 2 years, you'll have the pop polls down to single digets

Will cost you kochites a couple trillion and the election (no matter who either side runs for President!)

.Will not matter how much you nag, blog and fox old Jebbie the Bush, into the King o Polls.