2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCPACer On Women's Issues Panel: No Stupid Comments This Time Please
DANIEL STRAUSS MARCH 8, 2014, 5:48 PM EST
One of the panelists on a discussion conservative women in politics had a message for men within the party: no dumb comments this cycle and let women talk about contraception.
"We cannot have any stupid comments this year. No stupid comments," conservative author Kate Obenshain said Saturday at the Conservative Political Action Conference. "Please think before you make pithy, obnoxious comments."
Obenshain added that it's important to avoid comments that play into the "War On Women" attack against Republicans. Her comments are a clear reference to crippling statements like the ones made by then-Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) during the 2012 election cycle.
Near the end of the panel Obenshain also urged white men in the party to take a step back and let conservative women take points on talking about contraception and other women's issues. "White men stay behind, let the women talk about this issue. We love white men. We love all the white men," Obenshain said before adding that it's important for women to talk about those issues.
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Ferretherder
(1,446 posts)...good luck with THAT!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Do you even hear yourself?
I have this theory that these conservatives simply cannot control themselves. They open their mouths and out comes the worst shit possible.
It's actually kinda funny, in a depressing way..."don't say stupid stuff" and follows that with stupid stuff...
tanyev
(42,634 posts)because that's about the only way to stop their stupid comments. Oh, and get some for yourself while you're at it, Kate.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)is about, and only about, white men:
TxDemChem
(1,918 posts)A conversation that makes rethugs and tea Partiers say stupid things. Especially if a coworker gets on my nerves, I give it a few days, supply some rope and let them hang themselves. Cognitive dissonance is a serious problem on the right.
mazzarro
(3,450 posts)TxDemChem
(1,918 posts)Whose husband is on his 3rd bout of breast cancer. He hasn't been able to work for the past 3 years, had a stroke about a year and a half ago and has very little function if his right side from the stroke. In addition, he had to have a partial hip replacement on the right leg in January. She has been pulling money out of her 401k for years to pay for his treatment. He's in his late 60s. I asked if she'd thought about Medicare, since he is of age AND he's disabled. She scoffed at the idea and said they don't want any government handouts. I mentioned that he's paid into the system and deserves to be able to get treatment without bankrupting them. Then I asked what she would do about his healthcare is she gets caught in the next round of forced retirements - we've already had two rounds and she turned 62 in December. She had no answer.
Two days later, she came into work late after she and her husband met with a social worker about Medicare.
Late last year, she made some disparaging comments about the ACA and i reminded her that if it weren't for the law, no company would insure her husband on the private market without one hell of a premium and deductible.
Now that her husband is at home and needs at least a visiting nurse to come in and help him bathe and get dressed (he's been in a wheelchair since the stroke) and with his 260lb body and her stature of 4'11", she has hit bottom. She's tired, her hair is falling out, and she finally admitted last week that they need help. Previously she had been saying that people who get Medicare or Medicaid are lazy and want a handout. She'd said just that last December. Now that she's in a desperate situation, she's changed her tune. She's done a lot less shit talking and a lot more listening lately. I'd love to remind her of her own words, but I can't kick a person while they're down this low.
mazzarro
(3,450 posts)And also a grateful thank you for being a sympathetic and true friend indeed.
Sometimes, I cannot help but be touched when the story becomes a bit more personalized and the human pain and suffering is evident.
TxDemChem
(1,918 posts)I giggled to myself last year when she made comments about people who receive any sort of assistance as lazy or stupid. She came off sounding like a snobbish, apathetic bitch. But now, she wants everyone's pity. I have no pity for her, but I have plenty for her husband. He's been through a lot.
But I definitely won't go out of my way to make her feel any worse. He took care of her for more than 30 years (she didn't even learn how to pump gas until she was 58) and now that he needs a lot done, she'll complain that he needs to stop whining and suck it up. Hence my lack of pity for her. But I hope he goes into remission again and doesn't have the cancer return. I met him once. He was very nice.
cheyanne
(733 posts)Talk is all about putting lipstick on the pig.
Thank god, they haven't figured out that they need to change something besides the perception of their "message".
LiberalFighter
(51,141 posts)All of their women make stupid comments too related to their gender.
Wounded Bear
(58,728 posts)as long as they don't talk about it. That about right?
Note to Republicans: It's not the messag"ing" we hate. It's the message.
Beaverhausen
(24,472 posts)They don't get it. They never will.