2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumKrystal Ball Will Not Cave To The Seasoned Pundits: She still says 'Run Elizabeth Warren Run’(VIDEO)
A couple of weeks ago Krystal Ball suggested on her Krystal Clear segment that Hillary Clinton should not run. Her contention was that Hillary Clinton was too close to Wall Street. She also scolded Hillary Clinton for implying it was fool hearted to pile on about the excesses of the titans of finance. Krystal Ball wanted Elizabeth Warren to run.
http://egbertowillies.com/2014/02/26/krystal-ball-elizabeth-warren-clinton/
RedstDem
(1,239 posts)DU has already elected Hillary and are preparing to nominate her for a Nobel.
Everything will be automatically awesome.
rdharma
(6,057 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)The President will (and should) stay out of it until there is a nominee.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)unless one candidate does something so egregiously bad that he's forced to step in.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)that he had not decided just yet, but wasn't ruling a run out.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)No use getting off course when there will be no one to enact a Democratic agenda from the White House without numbers. And Obama has said to focus on the states, but the media and those who don't like him want a horse race now to get us off the main topic. EOM.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)no matter who wins the WH in 2016.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)when he ran for President in 2008.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)brooklynite
(94,598 posts)The person who's opinion IS relevant is Elizabeth Warren. She DOES NOT WANT TO RUN, and is encouraging Clinton to do so. Since, apparently, nobody (especially here) will lift a finger to convince her otherwise, what Krystal or anyone else thinks about how good she'd be is pointless.
rtracey
(2,062 posts)Why would we even try. Elizabeth Warren has come out several times and said she would not run for president this election cycle. She is a very important part of the banking committee right now and she wants to keep up the fight on that end....
DFW
(54,406 posts)"I dream of things that never were and ask Why Not?"
antigop
(12,778 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)I'm positive Mrs Clinton will fully back whoever runs.
warrior1
(12,325 posts)has said she isn't running.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)But that only matters if we live in a true Constitutionally run Representative Democracy, which we really dont. With gerrymandering, disenfranchisement of voters, actual vote stealing, Citizens United, and IMO some behind the scenes strong-arming, we really dont have a representative government. We are allowed to vote, but usually our choices are between Corp-Thing 1 and Corp-Thing 2. In some countries they only get one choice to vote for president. We are much more fortunate, we get a choice of two. Both brought to you by Wall Street.
To those of you that keep repeating, ad nauseum, that Sen Warren isnt running. Who are you trying to convince and why? Ms. Ball speaks for a lot of us that are speaking out and saying that Sen Warren speaks for us and we wish that she would run. I will continue to wish that she runs unless another progressive comes forward. I will not participate in the best of evils game the PTB corner us into playing. "rhett dont play that game."
If you so called centrists (read conservatives) dont want another Bush in the White House, then nominate someone more progressive than H. Clinton-Sachs, the sweetheart of Wall Street. Otherwise, it's all on you. No blaming Ralph Nader. Nominate someone the whole country can support, someone like Sen Warren.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)Just having her in the Primaries will force the National Discussion way to The Left.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)I guess the fact that even her bundler has said that she has no intention of running for president is not convincing to her supporters. They want to drag her into the limelight of presidential politics whether she likes it or not.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)The rest of us pundits take Elizabeth at her word that she doesn't intend to run.
We keep asking her and keep getting the same answer.
Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)and she really isn't going to run. Like Al Gore in 2004. Her integrity and forthright answers to simple questions is one of the reasons I admire her so much. She's pretty much unique among contemporary political leaders in that respect.
DUer's will probably realize it shortly after the Democratic convention in 2016 nominates someone else.
greatlaurel
(2,004 posts)She is married to Jonathan Dariyanani, who is president and CEO of Sargus Capital and is on the board of Forbes. The move to draft Elizabeth Warren to run for president is to get her away from the Senate and the vital work she is doing digging out and exposing the corrupt financial industry practices.
Biden is also a tool of the financial industry, so he may be used to try to screw up the chance for Democrats is 2016, as well. Come on folks, he was a senator out of Delaware for decades.
The financial industry is terrified of Clinton becoming president and all the snark on this site about her being the Wall Street favorite is balderdash and vile political gamesmanship. Progressives had better wake up. The GOP and their corrupt allies are trotting out the Al Gore playbook of "not liberal enough" on us all over again.
There is no doubt Clinton has received and will get money from these outfits. They always pay out money to who ever has a chance to win, but it is clear, if you pay attention at all, that Clinton scares the crap out of them and for good reason.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)i just dont think she would sell well in swing states.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)I don't want talking heads to start showing favorites and dividing the Dem party. Can't we wait and see who's running before we start taking some of them down with negative comments. Leave that to the Rethugs.