What's wrong with the Democratic Party? I'll tell you...

[Bozvotros]

The Democratic Party: What's wrong with them? For starters they are almost the Washington Generals of politics. They show up, get a lead and then fall apart, blow a huge advantage and walk off shaking their heads. "Maybe next time." I say 'almost' because if there is one thing the Republican party ISN'T, it is the Harlem Globetrotters. The Dems are getting beat by a bunch of ignorant loud mouth hypocritical assholes who can barely dribble the ball. So it is really more like the Harlem Globetrotters rolling over for the Teabilly Shitstompers. You wouldn't tune in to watch that. And that is how I am feeling about the Dems. I don't think it is by design either, they just are afraid they might offend someone by being partisan. "Oh, the poor Shitstompers don't need to be hung by atomic wedgies in front of the Senate and mocked for their ignorance and tiny appurtenances. "No" say the Democrats, "They need us to set a good example of sportsmanship." Screw that noise.

Obama: As someone else said when he was first elected "He could have turned us into freaking Norway." Instead Obama wanted to show everyone what a harmless, cooperative fellow he was. So he ignored his base, tried to make nice, threw out single payor and made a whole bunch of pointless concessions before there was even a demand for it. Why? Just so a bunch of hateful wingnuts and inbred racist crackers can call him a mongrel and thug and an uppity n-word who they can hardly wait to impeach. And they will if they take the Senate and they may anyway just for shits and giggles like they did with Clinton. And you can hardly find one Repug anywhere who will do more than give some tiny weenie rebuke and then heaping the miscreant with praise for being such a stalwart Nazi on gun rights and abortions.

Obama's response? He talks like Congress is dysfunctional, not just the flaming assclowns of the GOP who would burn down the country if there was one chance in a 100 that Obama would get part of the blame, who have filibustered or threatened to filibuster almost every one of his judges, who have been willing to throw the entire country into default rather than pay the bills their guy ran up. Unbelievable cowards, shit heels and dumbasses but not to hear Obama. He might make a little joke but that's it.

You know who we need for President? We need Eldrige "Penis Pants" Cleaver.

http://www.uproxx.com/webculture/2013/08/meet-eldridge-cleaver-1968-presidential-candidate-and-penis-pants-inventor/

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[blkmusclmachine]

1. It's like professional wrestling. Totally scripted, down to the very last body blow. And, at the end

of the day, both wrestlers report to the same boss to collect their paychecks.

[Bozvotros]

3. I used to think that....

But the Cock Brothers are spending a fortune buying up state legislatures and the nastiest most compliant stooges they can find to run and funding them to the hilt. They wouldn't be trying so hard if it was all in the bag. No. There is something wrong with the Dems that the Repugs can be out baying at the moon and running batshit crazy candidates that want to gut the social safety net and turn us into some third world country run by aristocratic pricks. Meanwhile we can't even loudly and forcefully defend social security let alone call them out on their shit for fear of sounding unreasonable and liberal. If this is scripted it is a pretty stupid script.

[TheKentuckian]

40. Only stupid if you really want to stop the corporate agenda and change the status quo

It isn't stupid for the forces of entropy and concentration of wealth and power.

[polichick]

18. Good analogy!

[imthevicar]

27. Iwas going to say

The other side of the same coin.

[woo me with science]

38. What a perfect analogy.

[1StrongBlackMan]

2. I think ...

Obama: As someone else said when he was first elected "He could have turned us into freaking Norway." Instead Obama wanted to show everyone what a harmless, cooperative fellow he was.

the person that said this and persons that thought this are/were very, very wrong. First, there was/is no way President Obama could have turned us anyway near to Norway. Secondly, his "cooperativeness" is the result of the reality that 47% of the population voted against him and the reality of governing means not being viewed as an inflexible/uncompromising ideologue.

[Bozvotros]

4. I wish he had the will to be an inflexible uncompromising ideologue

Sometimes you need to be exactly that. Especially when you are in the right. Bush had no problem appearing to be just that and he was dead wrong about everything. And we bent over backwards for him too. I would prefer a Dem like Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren over a nice guy who keeps tacking farther and farther to the right in order to seem flexible and compromising.

Yeats had it right almost a 100 years ago...

The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

[1StrongBlackMan]

5. I think you are romanticizing stuff here ...

are you forgetting that Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have voted for, and supported, every initiative of that "nice guy"?

[Bozvotros]

6. Not forgetting.

Just wishing Obama would return the favor loudly and forcefully for the initiatives and causes Bernie and Elizabth champion.

[daybranch]

13. thank you for going there.

Obama seems disproportionately averse to political risk and pretty unsure of his economic underpinnings. He is too often strong on social issues and weak on economic ones. The battle is all about wealth and I would hope he moves a lot more to the side of the vast majority of people. Whether 47 percent voted against him is not the issue, the issue is working for all the people, not trying to make all of them like you. If you work for them as he did initially with the stimulus and stick to it, the people benefit. Is that not what it is supposed to be about? People know if there has been any improvement in their lives and the President has done much to help us all. Obamacare will lead to millions of good jobs, new businesses, and a renewal of creativity in this country. But right now, the President should be championing the causes of economic populists not following along until he sees which way the wind is blowing. Thank God for Warren and Sanders and Sherrod Brown, real leaders for our country.

[1StrongBlackMan]

15. Effective Presidents do what they can ...

Given the obstructionism in one third of this divided government and the almost pathological need of Democratic legislators to show their "independentness" from this President, President Obama does what can be done (the social and regulatory stuff) and moves the ball in the others.

That said, the battle is NOT all about wealth ... the domestic economic picture is but ONE aspect of the presidency; legislators can be "specialists" whereas the President most be a "generalist."

Yes ... Thank God for Warren and Sanders and Sherrod Brown, real leaders for our country (who have voted with the President on every major initiative and not submitted a single piece of legislation that President Obama has vetoed) ... if we had 10 more in the Senate and 17 more of them in the House, we would not be having this discussion.

[Jamaal510]

34. This.

"Yes ... Thank God for Warren and Sanders and Sherrod Brown, real leaders for our country (who have voted with the President on every major initiative and not submitted a single piece of legislation that President Obama has vetoed) ... if we had 10 more in the Senate and 17 more of them in the House, we would not be having this discussion."

[1StrongBlackMan]

36. On second thought ...

Yeah ... we would still be having these types of discussions because a segment of "democrats" here would STILL be out-raged.

[pablo_marmol]

29. And Thank You for going here:

"Obama seems disproportionately averse to political risk and pretty unsure of his economic underpinnings. He is too often strong on social issues and weak on economic ones."

[JoePhilly]

21. the gop wpuld have loved that.

He won't do anything, they won't do anything. Government comes to a full stop. Which is what the TOP wants in the first place.

[Jake Stern]

8. As it stands right now

those 47% are getting 75% of the say on how things are run. That is not right not matter how egalitarian one may be.

[1StrongBlackMan]

16. There is a saying ...

"The person that cares least about the relationship, rules the relationship", as the one that cares most wants to see and works to make the relationship continue whereas, the one that cares least is willing to blow up the relationship and walk away.

So is how divided government works ...in this political era, with Democrats far more interested in governing and republicans far more interested in obstructing that governing.

[Bozvotros]

31. That's also how people get abused over and over.

You can't negotiate with someone who doesn't care who gets hurt. You don't keep trying to verbally convince batterers to stop hitting you. You show them you are not going to take their shit any more. You send them into exile until they are convincingly contrite and you keep an eye on them. We are letting Repugs rule and their obstructionism is carrying the day even in the Senate where we have or should have an advantage. How long did it take for Reid to understand that he had to quit bluffing and hit them hard?

[1StrongBlackMan]

35. How exactly does a political party ...

walk away from it's opposition AND still function?

[Bozvotros]

37. I never suggested we walk away. I suggested we fight. But watch how the teabillies do it.

While Dems were waving their compromise flags in the US Senate, the Tea Party went back to the states and kicked our asses locally. Now they have gerrymandered the hell out of 2/3 of the states and practically rewrote all the rules of voting to exclude as many of our constituencies as possible and make it much easier to steal elections. We stood by and let them do it and let them use bullshit excuses and lies about protecting democracy. Those fuckers hate democracy. A few people spoke up a few times on MSNBC but that was it. It should have been on someone's lips on every Sunday talk show on every show a Dem showed up on.

How many bills did our Democratic leaders advance to overturn any of it?

How many bills did they advance to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine so that hate radio lies aren't pouring out of every hicks radio 24/7?

How many times did our guys stand up in front of the cameras and call the repugs what they are, what everyone can see that they are? You know....racist, sexist, homophobic, corporate ass kissers who never miss an opportunity to knife a working person in the back. Yes, you could say that a little nicer. But not much. Because it isn't a bullshit lie like calling Obama a socialist Kenyan. It's the fucking truth and you could prove it every time.

You want to know why people are pissed at Obama? It's because Obama looked and sounded like a fighter when he was running in 2007 and 2008. And with a few exceptions he hasn't looked like it since. If the Harlem Globetrotters were swishing them from half court and stuffing the basketball up to their armpit during warmups and then played like they "respected" the Generals during the game and didn't want to run up the score and lost more than half of their games, no one would come back and watch another game.

Politics is a blood sport. It is time we recognized it, played like it and left some of theirs on the floor.

[Bozvotros]

7. But do we get Eldridge?

No. This is who we get. http://www.politicususa.com/2014/02/24/lone-star-lunacy-obamahitler-candidate-leads-democratic-senate-primary.html

What the hell is wrong with our party?

[Jake Stern]

11. There's a history of casting aside good candidates for bad ones

A prime example is Howard Dean. Even with his infamous scream, Dean, in my opinion, stood the best chance to beat Dubya. He appealed to progressives (you know, the ones who sat out 2010) and could have pulled in those in the middle who opposed the war.

Who did the party pick? John Kerry, someone who has the charisma of Droopy Dog, most likely because he was a decorated combat vet.

[MisterP]

14. Lamont, McKinney, Halter, Romanoff, Sestak, Grayson, Kucinich

[Bozvotros]

32. Right. John Kerry still carrying fragments from the war

keeping his own 501cs silent on Bush's pathetic military cowardice and abandonment of duties and patiently waiting for the swift boating to stop. That worked well for him.

[okaawhatever]

28. That individual is not a Democrat and the Democratic party tried to sue to keep him off the ballot.

He has run previously as a Republican and is endorsing a Republican. He's a trouble maker who is trying to make the Democratic party look bad. I can't believe you didn't even research that for a second to learn the truth.

[world wide wally]

9. If you want to hear a Democrat with balls, find some old FDR speeches to listen to

[RobertEarl]

12. Least he could have done was file charges

Obama should have filed charges against bush and cheney. That would have told the world the US is for justice, Peace and the real American way.

Instead, like you say, he seems more guided by what his legacy may be in the halls of power of the PTB. It's like: "You little people don't matter."

[JoePhilly]

17. The endless hand wringing is what's wrong with Democrats.

[polichick]

19. Yeah, why can't everybody just salute and get to work?!

[JoePhilly]

20. Skip the salute, whine less, work more ... very simple.

[polichick]

22. Your "whining" is another person's waking up to the con game.

[JoePhilly]

23. Lamenting how terrible the President is, in an hyperbole packed article ...

isn't waking up ... its whining.

I understand that here on DU that counts as "activism", but in the real world, its still just whining.

[polichick]

24. That word "whining" is often used here by head-in-the-sand party loyalists who...

imo are both silly and dangerous because they only serve to protect the status quo.

[JoePhilly]

25. I don't care who uses it. Whining is whining.

[polichick]

26. Actually that's a completely subjective determination. Open your mind.

[Bozvotros]

33. Thanks polichick.

It's not whining to point out that we are not fighting with half the ferocity needed, that we are allowing them to lie and cheat and rig the election laws to suppress the vote. Hoping they don't overplay their hand is not working and we are deluding ourselves if we think they won't break all the rules to win this time. They have nothing to lose, while the rest of us do. It is well past time to call them out for the neanderthal bullies they are and sound like an opposition party ready to rumble when ever or where ever they want.

[Bozvotros]

30. All I am saying is the Republicans have never looked sicker, nastier and stupider than they do now.

And they still have a shot at the Senate. You think they won't have articles of impeachment on the table come November 5th? Here is a collection of stories from the last few days on DU.

Tom DeLay: People keep forgetting that God ‘wrote the Constitution’ |

Newly disclosed emails reveal racist jokes by Scott Walker's ex-aides

Tea Party protesters call Charlie Crist a ‘commie whore’ who looks ‘like an AIDS victim’

Arizona Governor Fears Government Regulation Could Ruin Bigotry and Hatred
“All I’m saying is, let’s leave it to the private sector.”

Boykin: When Jesus Comes Back, He'll Be Carrying An AR-15 Assault Rifle

GOP Candidate Allegedly Joked About Gunshot Patients’ X-Rays on Facebook

Walker caught lying his ass off again and facing Hatch Act violation charges.

Christie's closest circle of advisers and friends implicated or resigning or both

Obama is a Nazi....says future Republican Senator who may not have a Democratic opponent.

Texas Tea Party candidate: Calling immigrants ‘wetbacks’ is as normal as breathing air

Virginia Republican Says A Pregnant Woman Is Just A 'Host'

Kansas Tea Party group urges state senators to legalize discrimination against LGBT citizens |...

Lively: Putin Will Restore Tsarism, Defeat 'Marxist' United States And 'Global Homosexual Agenda'

It's been like this for months. These howling lunatics and hundreds more like them are who Democrats are running against. It should be like shooting fish in a barrel. Not a day should go by without prominent Dems including the President shaming the Republicans for fielding and tolerating such corrupt, nasty, mean spirited ignoramuses. But no. We can't have that. That would be mean. Obama invites the Repug governors for tea and Bobby Jindal takes a dump on the rug and wipes himself on the curtains.

It is more than simple cognitive dissonance allowing Republicans to remain not only viable but competitive. This is a mutated metastatic version of it and it appears half of the country is infected. They need woke up. They need a smack in the face every day until they do. A middle or lower class person voting Republican at this point is like asking your morbidly obese and acutely psychotic doctor who chain smokes, drinks sterno and injects meth into his temples during your appointments to help you develop a healthy lifestyle.

And then following his advice.

America is approaching a Jonestown moment. Polls are showing that despite everything right in front of their faces Americans may vote in a Republican Senate. In Guyana it was aging radicals, hippies, blacks and liberals wanting to believe in Jim Jones phony socialism. Walled off from facts they stopped listening to anyone but Jones and doubled down on their craziness and died in agony. The politicians who tried to rescue them discretely and quietly died running away too. (You don't bring a microphone and camera to a gun fight).

One loud bold voice in that camp needed to say "Take a good look at your Mr. Jones and the jack booted thugs he surrounds himself with. Are you going to actually listen to and follow the directions of this fraudulent bozo who stole your money, this perp who is groping your asses?" It would have got messy when the emperor was exposed but if well prepared for almost everyone would have just walked away. Right now half the people who have been voting Republican have decided it would be too humiliating to admit how crazy their beloved party has become and are ready for their final kool aid test this May. The other half have already drank it and are zombies already. They are slow and stupid and in small numbers easily handled. But you get enough of them......

Take the fucking gloves off. Now.

[TBF]

39. I think Clinton or Warren

Will do much better. We mothers are used to dealing with toddlers - which is how the repugs are acting.

[TheKentuckian]

41. Clinton is complicit. Get real, she isn't going to bust their asses where they largely agree

This is about agenda and what will you stand for whatever way the wind blows not gender.

No, no man or woman can ably serve two Masters with diverse interests and aims. That is the fundamental problem masquerading as a strength aka the big tent.

If the answer to the question "who do you serve" is naively "everyone" you are fooling yourself and probably lying your ass off because in reality somebody gets their way and those somebodies are almost always the same folks and it is also the same folks that always have to suck it up in the exchanges.

[mstinamotorcity2]

42. I feel your pain!!!

Wasn't always like this at DU. Or with the Dems. Now we have to feed sweet milk and bread to the wittle babies. Can't hurt their tender feelings!!! Bridge people YUK!!!!