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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 10:45 PM Dec 2013

Ads Target Vulnerable Dems on O-Care (Koch Bros)

Americans for Prosperity, a conservative group backed by the Koch brothers, is launching ads hitting Reps. Rick Nolan (D-Minn.) and Ann McLane Kuster (D-N.H.) for ObamaCare's faults. Both ads seek to personalize bigger issues with the program.


The ad against Nolan features a man from his district saying how the program ended his health insurance policy. "I received notice that my current insurance was no longer qualified. I've had three heart attacks in the last six years. Healthcare is something that's essential. My life depends on it," says Randy Westby in the ad. "Congressman Nolan, ObamaCare needs to be repealed. It was a big lie."

The other ad is the latest version of one the group has previously used elsewhere, featuring a soft-spoken woman saying ObamaCare "just doesn't work." "Healthcare isn't about politics, it's about people," she says. "And millions of people have lost their health insurance, millions can't see their own doctors, and millions are paying more and getting less."

Both Nolan and Kuster are freshmen from swing districts and are facing competitive reelection races. http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/194012-koch-group-hits-two-house-dems-on-obamacare

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Ads Target Vulnerable Dems on O-Care (Koch Bros) (Original Post) big_dog Dec 2013 OP
Kochs will burn in hell for their evil. We have to combat their lies. CurtEastPoint Dec 2013 #1
Those aren't lies Demeter Dec 2013 #2
The "lies" tell an incomplete story. Those with cancelled policies can get better, cheaper policies LonePirate Dec 2013 #3
Sorry, THAT'S pure propaganda Demeter Dec 2013 #4

CurtEastPoint

(18,644 posts)
1. Kochs will burn in hell for their evil. We have to combat their lies.
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 10:56 PM
Dec 2013
And millions of people have lost their health insurance - LIE
millions can't see their own doctors - LIE
millions are paying more and getting less - LIE
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
2. Those aren't lies
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 11:20 PM
Dec 2013

You are going to have to take a real look at Obamacare. It is the biggest con pulled on this nation, ever.

It's refreshing to see the GOP using factual information, but it's not likely to turn people to the GOP.

I am hoping that it instead generates a groundswell for Universal, Single Payer. Like sensible nations have.

LonePirate

(13,424 posts)
3. The "lies" tell an incomplete story. Those with cancelled policies can get better, cheaper policies
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 11:49 PM
Dec 2013

That convenient fact is omitted from the attack ads and every single media report.

Other than the media being in the Republicans' pockets like we know they are, I cannot imagine why the media is not trumpeting the countless instances of people with sky high deductibles and crappy policies with exorbitant premiums who can now receive better, cheaper, more comprehensive policies via the exchanges.

President Obama needs to use his SOTU speech to highlight example after example of how the ACA is helping people. Even if he spends 90 minute doing that and mentioning nothing else in his speech, that is what he needs to do. He must start selling and promoting the ACA to America. He must put names and faces to the millions of success stories which the media refuses to acknowledge.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
4. Sorry, THAT'S pure propaganda
Thu Dec 26, 2013, 11:56 PM
Dec 2013

The ACA treats every single case as an exception. There is NO standard of minimum results, let alone equal results. Therefore, no two cases can be compared.

Furthermore, the before-and-after for an individual, when examined for efficacy and cost, shows no improvement, either.

Insurance is a lottery, where only the losers win, by getting deathly ill.

This nation needs HEALTHCARE. NOT insurance.

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