2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThat NSA Anti-Spying rally held today in D.C.
10,000 estimated attendance....Question?
Out of the 10,000, how many there were really concerned about NSA spying as opposed to those who were there just to display their hatred of Obama..?
Just Asking...
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darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Are you saying that the majority of those who don't agree with the NSA way of spying, hate POTUS? Is that what you're saying? Sorry if I misunderstood
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)I am however trying to point out that there are plenty of racist, state rights Libertarians who attend these rallies simply to display their hatred of the President... They have little understanding of whats going on with the NSA issue.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)But so are people who love and respect POTUS, who helped getting him re elected. I remember the names some of were called a few months ago with regard to the NSA. And it wasn't fair.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Could you ever imagine a Black Dem. POTUs who is in his first term being able to dismantle the MIC?
This shit has been around a long time... Today we learned that the NSA was tapping Merkel since 2002..
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)People were outraged, and rightfully so. The posts weren't against POTUS personally, yet we got called all sorts of names and told we hate President Obama. Well, that's what I think its fuct up it really pissed me off. Because I helped to get POTUS elected , yet I was being called names because of the NSA.
Perheps we shouldn't eat our own until further (proven) facts, what do you say??
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)But it might have a lot to do with all the extreme racist hate the right wing has displayed towards Obama.
i think it might have blinded many of us.... It really pissed many of us off to the point of.. Attacking everything in sight..
No one should have been called out unfairly.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)The surveillance was going on well before Obama became president. It is not his fault. Continuing it is his responsibility. But the NSA just kind of goes on and on and on and on . . . .
On edit:
Here you go.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023929092
Please read the post there.
I tend to believe Obama. I suspect that he is not being told the truth by some of his aides.
A lot of Republicans have contempt for him. A lot of conservatives do. Some of these characters may well think that they have better judgment than Obama
I don't think people especially blame Obama, however, I also believe that they would like him to stop these excesses. And they are excesses.
Surveillance and collecting phone and internet records for people who are suspected of terrorism or crimes based on probable cause is acceptable. But this broad surveillance absolutely is not.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)"This afternoon we held the biggest rally against NSA surveillance yet. Over 3000 people descended on Washington, DC to demand that our government stop the lying and stop the spying."
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)I'm going to guess that most of the people there were concerned about the NSA.