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Related: About this forumGOP’s latest shutdown delusion: They missed the Obamacare negotiations!
They ignore a year of hearings and desperate bargaining on Obamacare. Plus: the worst shutdown punditry everBY JOAN WALSH
I had the good luck of debating former Newt Gingrich flack Rick Tyler on MSNBC Sunday. It was good luck, because it forced me to encounter one of the ways Republicans are lying to the country about their defund/delay/repeal Obamacare hostage-taking. Tyler insisted shutting down the government was reasonable recourse for his party because the Affordable Care Act was rammed through in the middle of the night without a single Republican vote.
I Googled Obamacare and rammed through to find thats a regular GOP talking point, of course. I also found the single worst piece of punditry on our current political crisis, by Michael Barone on Real Clear Politics, using the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to indict President Obama and the Affordable Care Act. Ill get to that in a minute.
First, let me demolish Tylers claim that the ACA was rammed through Congress without deliberation or debate, part of a pattern of Obama failing to negotiate with Congress. Well, I knew that was a lie, and I said so to Tyler and host Karen Finney. In fact, the ACA was the result of more than a year of Congressional committee hearings in which progressive ideas like single payer or a public option were jettisoned, and hundreds of GOP amendments to the law were accepted, in exchange for zero Republican votes. Sen. Max Baucus, in particular, drove an eight-month bipartisan process via the Senate Finance Committee in which he and ranking Republican Chuck Grassley held dozens of hearings, released joint policy option papers and finally presided over 31 meetings lasting 60 hours with the so-called Gang of Six Baucus and Grassley plus Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.), and Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.) to try to hammer out a compromise that would attract GOP support. (A Twitter friend shared this helpful history of the Finance Committees tortuous process.)
But it wasnt until I read the Finance Committee summary of its work on the ACA that I fully experienced the inanity of Tylers argument. Its actually painful to read. In fact, it was the administrations determination to compromise, and to let the centrist Baucus drive the process, that led Democrats to head into the disastrous August 2009 recess without an actual bill they could tout, let alone defend and that vacuum was filled by Tea Party hatred at town halls that Rep. Todd Akin (remember him?) appreciatively labelled town hells for Democrats.
full article
http://www.salon.com/2013/10/07/gops_latest_shutdown_delusion_obama_didn%E2%80%99t_negotiate_health_care_law/
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GOP’s latest shutdown delusion: They missed the Obamacare negotiations! (Original Post)
DonViejo
Oct 2013
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liberal N proud
(60,344 posts)1. That is like saying, I wasn't there when my older brother was born.
It happened before the teabaggers were even elected.
pinto
(106,886 posts)2. Good read.
Thanks for the snag.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)3. "...ideas like single payer ... were jettisoned ... in exchange for zero Republican votes."
"... progressive ideas like single payer or a public option were jettisoned, and hundreds of GOP amendments to the law were accepted, in exchange for zero Republican votes."
Maybe the Republicans are correct that there were no negotiations.
Cha
(297,655 posts)4. thanks DV