2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum10 states where Obamacare wipes out existing healthcare plans?
Can someone explain this to me - or is this a line of BS.
If you are currently covered through work, why would you cancel? If the insurance company will no longer cover you, then that's a different story.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/28/ten-states-where-obamacare-wipes-out-existing-health-care-plans/
As I read the Missouri deal, if you're insured under Obamacare, you cannot go to a BJC hospital. Well, there's more hospitals in St. Louis, and as I see it it will hurt BJC as their income will go down. Am I missing something here?
2) Missouri: Patients of the states largest hospital system which spans 13 hospitals including the St. Louis Childrens Hospital will not be covered by the largest insurer on Obamacare exchanges, Anthem BlueCross BlueShield. Anthem covers 79,000 patients in Missouri who may seek subsidies on Obamacare exchanges, but wont be able to see any doctors in the BJC HealthCare system.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)I thought I did. Somehow it got wiped out. I guess the link button don't work. Sorry for the confusion.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/28/ten-states-where-obamacare-wipes-out-existing-health-care-plans/
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tosh
(4,423 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)I got it from a RW rag. The questions is, is it true, or a line of BS?
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)I'd like some type of concrete evidence that this is bullshit.
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SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)I am a true democrat. I just want to know if this bullshit is true. If it is, I have a real problem with what I'm being told.
seabeckind
(1,957 posts)in my local paper:
Obamacare will narrow insurance choices for some Hoosiers
http://www.indystar.com/article/20130930/NEWS/309300033?odyssey=mod%7Cmostcom&nclick_check=1
Comparing this article to the one mentioned in this thread, the common factor seems to be Anthem. IMHO, Anthem is one of the most egregious insurance companies around and very much takes advantage (and pushes) some state's oversight. They thrive in shedding any profit-decreasing factors.
The negotiate rates with providers. My bet is that they have had problems with some provider networks which refuse to reduce their rates to match Anthem's idea of what a charge should be.
So I think Anthem is using the ACA as an excuse to drop these non-negotiators from their network. That's just like employers who have been itching for an excuse to drop coverage for as many employees as possible and use the ACA to try to justify it.
They try to blame the ACA but the dishonesty and blame is entirely theirs. Call the f'ers what they are.
seabeckind
(1,957 posts)Wellpoint Anthem, you get a lot of disgusting facts, eg:
"WellPoint's Anthem Blue Cross spurns Calif. small-business exchange"
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jul/19/business/la-fi-mo-anthem-wellpoint-health-exchange-20130719
The next thing that might come in handy is to look at the people behind Wellpoint, Susan Bayh, wife of Even Bayh, ex-gov of Ind and ex-senator from this backass state, and now a big shot financial guy.
DINO asshole.
This is why we need single payer...graft, greed, combined with ignorance in the people and ratfucking from the media has destroyed any semblance of propriety.
On edit: No coincidence that Wellpoint is hqed in Indiana.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)You may have to change your insurance provider (this happens all the time with employer-provided insurance) I've been under a half-dozen different carriers in my life. Changing your insurance provider doesn't necessarily mean that you have to change your physician. Our family doctor accepts several different insurance plans -- this is really just a change in billing at your doctor's office.
And the fact that an insurance company is not going to be on the exchange doesn't mean that you can't buy insurance from them. You just don't get the subsidy -- So if you've been paying premiums to Brand X insurance for years and want to keep them as your insurance provider (but who is that friggin' loyal to their insurance company?), you can go on buying from them by paying full price.
If you want a subsidy (and lower insurance premiums) then you can talk to your doctor about which insurance companies he/she deals with, and buy your insurance from them.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)work insurance costs YOU more than a (don't remember number) percent of your IRS total declared income.