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jeanne43

(23 posts)
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 03:40 PM Jul 2013

"President Obama is a disappointment" Who said that???

If you’re one of those folks who thinks President Obama is a “disappointment,” you haven’t been paying attention the last few years. And those of you who try to draw comparisons with the Bush Administration should put away the hallucinogens and have your memory checked. If you were in a coma for the eight Bush Years, I apologize and forgive you. But please join the real world. So far, this president has done most of what he said he would do if elected; imagine what he could have done by now if progressives had supported him and not given him a Congress that doesn’t look at him as if he’s the demon seed.

Not only is he NOT a “disappointment,” he’s pretty much the opposite.



Read more: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/02/15/a-long-list-of-president-obamas-accomplishments-with-citations/#ixzz2aN2Zl1W4

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"President Obama is a disappointment" Who said that??? (Original Post) jeanne43 Jul 2013 OP
Rec for reality mcar Jul 2013 #1
I do think any comparisons with Bush* are ridiculous and untrue/unfair. hlthe2b Jul 2013 #2
It's always a sure bet that the folks who whine that 'progressive did not vote' Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #3
I worked my ass off for Romanoff. Obama came to CO and campaigned for Bennet. Autumn Jul 2013 #4
I worked for Bennet, madamesilverspurs Jul 2013 #5
Governor Frackenlooper has to go. Autumn Jul 2013 #6
+1 truebluegreen Jul 2013 #14
I don't agree.... dtom67 Jul 2013 #7
Bingo! Fearless Jul 2013 #15
Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Scuba Jul 2013 #17
Drive by Jean refuses to engage or respond, feels the right to lecture arrogantly Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #8
K&R! Aristus Jul 2013 #9
disagree mtasselin Jul 2013 #10
Of course you do, but then all of the following is insignificant as far as you are concerned intaglio Jul 2013 #11
from heaven05 Jul 2013 #13
Agree jeanne43 Jul 2013 #18
yes heaven05 Jul 2013 #12
The claim is, that he did all this, without Republicans. John2 Jul 2013 #16
. libodem Jul 2013 #19
you're heaven05 Jul 2013 #20
He's not a disappointment but his term has been disappointing. Kablooie Jul 2013 #21
Mahalo jeanne! Cha Jul 2013 #22

hlthe2b

(102,351 posts)
2. I do think any comparisons with Bush* are ridiculous and untrue/unfair.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 03:49 PM
Jul 2013

And, I credit Obama with a great many things while in office. That doesn't mean he hasn't been a disappointment to me in some areas--including civil liberties.

I worked hard to elect Obama--both times. While I don't regret having done so, I've absolutely earned the right to criticize him when he deviates from his stated beliefs, policies and positions. I will NEVER be the NEVER-CRITICAL unthinking sycophant to any elected Democrat, that so many were to Bush*.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
3. It's always a sure bet that the folks who whine that 'progressive did not vote'
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 03:56 PM
Jul 2013

don't list their State in their profile. Probably one of the many States that failed to elect their precious 'Moderates' and 'Blue Doggy Dogs'. They put up shitty candidates then whine that the voters thought they were shitty, as if they expect people to turn out for a crappy candidate. In reality candidates have to win elections, imagine that.
Here in Oregon, 2010 midterms had record breaking turn out. No crazed Tea Dogs or Blue Baggers elected. We have two Democratic Senators both of whom are constantly criticized by the 'Moderates' who failed to elect their own candidates.
I tell you who disappoints me. The state Democratic Parties that keep running losing conservative candidates and causing great apathy among their voters who want a clear choice not a Republican and an Almost Republican....
We have towering turn out, and the 'Moderates' whine that theirs sucked but they never, ever consider taking a lesson from States with great turn out and Democrats elected.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
4. I worked my ass off for Romanoff. Obama came to CO and campaigned for Bennet.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 04:00 PM
Jul 2013

Bennet won. Don't blame me.

dtom67

(634 posts)
7. I don't agree....
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 05:38 PM
Jul 2013

Each of us has a right to certain expectations. Mine probably do not match up with yours.

I expected, after a final victory, a leftward move. And my primary interest is economic policy. I am also against Romneycare. Medicare for all could easily work and would certainly cost less than the next war we are about to get into.

Its OK if you are not disappointed; you had different expectations.

In the Future, PLEASE do not tell me that I have not been paying attention, just because you have different views or interests than me .

It is not nice.

But I'll get over it .......


 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
8. Drive by Jean refuses to engage or respond, feels the right to lecture arrogantly
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 05:43 PM
Jul 2013

to others, but will not so much as answer a question asked. Definitive of the political philosophy being touted 'I will tell you and you will obey'. Fuck that.

Aristus

(66,450 posts)
9. K&R!
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 06:21 PM
Jul 2013

I hope the "President Obama didn't take the whole country out for ice cream" crowd gets with the program soon...

mtasselin

(666 posts)
10. disagree
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 06:44 PM
Jul 2013

I couldn't disagree with you more, he never stepped up to the plate when all these republican governors were going after the workers, he is pursuing Trans Pacific Partnership which is going to give control of this country to the corporations, oh one more thing Wall Street has destroyed this country he had a chance to go after these bastards and he made sure AG Holder stayed away from it. Is he better than what would have been, can't see much of a difference. I am just another disappointed liberal, Hillary won't be any better, meet the new boss same as the old boss. Wall Street wins for now at least until we can get a real democrat in the white house.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
11. Of course you do, but then all of the following is insignificant as far as you are concerned
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 06:50 PM
Jul 2013

Extracted the USA from Iraq and ensured there are no permanent bases there?

About to extract the USA from a second war?

Made healthcare more available to ordinary citizens than any other President, Johnson possibly excepted?

Overseen the demise of DOMA and brought in the "Matthew Shepard" act?

Allowed waivers from the appalling "No child left behind"?

Brought in early learning grants?

Brought in the credit card "bill of rights?

Started to remove exemptions for high tax payers?

Fully funded the VA?

Ended "Stop Loss"?

Ended "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"?

Increased funding for National Parks?

And the EPA?

Funded the Violence against women act?

Increased funding for the National Endowment for the Arts?

Saw to it that the rebuilding on the Gulf coast and New Orleans was funded?

Reformed the Patent system?

Modernised air traffic control?

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
13. from
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 07:08 PM
Jul 2013

all I've read, TPP does worry me when it comes to destroying more american jobs, but everything you pointed out is quite an accomplishment for a POTUS with such obstruction always in front of him. Thank you for the reminder.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
12. yes
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 07:05 PM
Jul 2013

Last edited Mon Jul 29, 2013, 08:58 AM - Edit history (1)

this POTUS really is light years from the neocon devils that ruled and damn near destroyed this country in eight short years. Lied us into wars for nefarious reasons, gave bankers a pass on cheating trillions out of citizens of the U.S. Flew over post-katrina chaos and went to play golf. Yet, gitmo must be closed and I think prez is trying? Still gave them goddamn bankers a pass, thank god Dr. Warren is in that picture. Making some very suspect appointments of people I wouldn't trust after they turned the corner. I never expected it, but I wish Bush and his cabal would have ended up on the docket in the Hague. Yeah civil and human rights are still being stripped, not necessarily Obama's fault, and in the wake of Trayvon Martin's murder he has made some measured statements on rights, which is good. But rethugs at the state level, where they can really take advantage of the 47% who vote against their self interests as long as they feel blacks and all 'minority' groups will be hurt and those librul women are put back into the kitchen barefoot and pregnant are going full tilt boogie with gerrymandering and other underhanded ways to 'steal' the vote....he's got a lot on his plate and a lot still to do, but yes he is no Bush, thank god..

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
16. The claim is, that he did all this, without Republicans.
Sun Jul 28, 2013, 09:44 PM
Jul 2013

So what has changed, starting his second term, to think he can trust Republicans on anything? Who wants him to go after marijuana abusers? That seems to be one of the gripes.

Who told him to introduce CPI? That seems to be one of the gripes.
Who is telling him to start another War in the Middle East? That seems to be one of the gripes.
His Justice Department needs to do more on race relations. They need to stop denying this country has a problem with race.

I suppose the Justice Department defended the Voting Rights Act? Where does five Republican Supreme Court Justices get off, with the premise, a part of the Voting Rights Act was Constitutional in 1965, but not today? It has been Constitutional up until now.

The reason the law was enacted by Congress on certain jurisdictions in the South, was because they were the worse offenders of Voting Rights. If those five justices wanted a basis for it, then ask them to go all the way back to the American Civil War, up to the present.

Do not give us this Bullshit about the original Constitution because that was out dated after 600,000 Americans loss their lives. It is a discredit to them. When I looked at the North Carolina State Constitition, it was one of the reasons they were accepted back into the Union. That does not exist in any Northern State's Constitution because they never seceded over slavery. If the Chief Supreme Court Justice wanted to know the difference, then look no further than the State Constitutions of the South. When they did so, states' rights was conceded to the Federal Government. North Carolina's State Constitution specifically states, the state of North Carolina has no right to secede from the Union. What those Supreme Court Justices did was UnConstitutional. They usurped the power of Congress also, to make laws. He should be more vigilant against these rightwingers and throw a line in the sand. He needs to use the Bully pulpit more to do so. Somebody like Lincoln would probably throw the assholes in jail. They have no right to legislate laws. They legislated when claiming it was unconstitutional when it has never been. They essentially changed the law. The only way you can do that is through Congress, or change the Constitution. The Supreme Court overstepped their bounds. It was one Party too, so it was political. If I was the President, I would ignore those ass holes and dare them to do something about it. I say what the Supreme Court Justices did was UnConstitutional period. They legislated from the bench. Congress renewed it for 25 years, so the complaints should have been dismissed period by the Court. They also had a forum to redress to the DOJ. So it was not like they had no way to opt out of the punishments on them. All they needed to do was show progress. They just went over the head of the DOJ.



 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
20. you're
Mon Jul 29, 2013, 11:10 AM
Jul 2013

right. A lot haven't been paying attention, including me who gets lost in all the blather of what Pres. Obama is NOT doing, rather than what is able to do with all the neocon obstruction in front of him constantly. You are right. Those with a need to put down this Pres. would never be satisfied with anything he has done or will do. He still has a few more years to continue turning back neocon malfeasance, hopefully. So they can be written off as perpetual whiners.

Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
21. He's not a disappointment but his term has been disappointing.
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 01:34 AM
Jul 2013

He hasn't been able to live up to his potential because of the unprecedented opposition and that's disappointing.

And I disagree with him on his NSA support but that is a disagreement and not a disappointment.

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