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AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 08:41 PM Jul 2013

All Democrats should have a simple message in the next election. Just a few questions to ask voters

Do you want Social Security? If yes, Vote Democratic. If not vote republican.
Do you want Medicare? If yes, Vote Democratic. If not vote republican.
Do you want clean water? If yes, Vote Democratic. If not vote republican.
Do you want to breathe clean air? If yes, Vote Democratic. If not vote republican.
Do want clean, uncontaminated food and medicine? If yes, Vote Democratic. If not vote republican.
Do you want public education for your children? If yes, Vote Democratic. If not vote republican.
Do you want equal rights an justice for everyone? If yes, Vote Democratic. If not vote republican.
Do you want an infrastructure for transportation? If yes, Vote Democratic. If not vote republican.
Do you want health care for every American? If yes, Vote Democratic. If not vote republican.
(add some more)

One or two of these questions in one TV or radio ad. No other words.

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All Democrats should have a simple message in the next election. Just a few questions to ask voters (Original Post) AlinPA Jul 2013 OP
Those questions should do it. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2013 #1
"Do you want Social Security?" -- Do you want a reduction through a chained CPI? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #2
Just keeping simple, it could be "Do you want a reduction in SS?" AlinPA Jul 2013 #3
That would remind voters that Obama wants to cut SS. Is that what you want? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #4
Congressional Democrats rejected chained CPI, nice try at hijacking though. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #6
Show where Congressional Democrats rejected chained CPI. Show where Obama won't bring it back. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #8
When's the last time you voted for a Democrat? geek tragedy Jul 2013 #9
BS. It was falsely implied that a vote was taken and Congressional Democrats rejected Obama's AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #10
You didn't answer the question. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #11
Actually, the post was about using a strategy of asking certain questions. Is the strategy a wise AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #12
And the simple answer … 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #14
You are making an unsupported claim: he was offering the CCPI "that he knew was going nowhere" AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #16
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #19
Why don't you come back when you can deal in something besides flame bait? Paladin Jul 2013 #20
In my opinion, people with emotional problems should not own or possess firearms. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #21
Not even a nice try on your part. Thanks for playing, though. (nt) Paladin Jul 2013 #22
why are you feeding the troll? are you witb him or her? Dustin DeWinde Jul 2013 #17
Excellent. But as you can see, some here can't keep it simple. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #5
Fascinating, isn't it? They do nothing but encourage people to help defeat geek tragedy Jul 2013 #7
... SunSeeker Jul 2013 #13
We are so transparent, aren’t they? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2013 #15
Do you want a job then vote for the Democratic Party Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2013 #18
If you want health care for every American, area51 Aug 2013 #23

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,688 posts)
1. Those questions should do it.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 08:45 PM
Jul 2013

When people realize just what is at stake, (and these questions make them see) then they will have an easier time not voting for Republicans.

K&R

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
8. Show where Congressional Democrats rejected chained CPI. Show where Obama won't bring it back.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 09:58 PM
Jul 2013

You can't do either.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
10. BS. It was falsely implied that a vote was taken and Congressional Democrats rejected Obama's
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:06 PM
Jul 2013

proposed chained-CPI Social Security cuts.

No vote has been taken. The issue has not been before Congress in a way that would enable Congressional Democrats to vote against Obama's proposed chained-CPI cuts. That's been put off for the future.

You are wrong in falsely saying "You want to discourage people from voting for Democrats." That's not true. Obama, in fact, said that he wanted us to hold him accountable. The phrase that I believe that he used was that he wanted us to hold his feet to the fire. Obama's effort to cut Social Security with a chained-CPI, which has not been rejected by any Congressional vote, is the exact opposite of opposing cuts to Social Security.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
11. You didn't answer the question.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:13 PM
Jul 2013

This thread was not about Obama. It was about why people should vote for Democrats over Republicans.

And you came in to piss all over that idea.

Seems like sabotage.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
12. Actually, the post was about using a strategy of asking certain questions. Is the strategy a wise
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 11:58 PM
Jul 2013

one that will focus upon strengths? Or one that can uncover vulnerabilities?

You don't understand the distinction? Too bad.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
14. And the simple answer …
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 08:20 AM
Jul 2013

To that faux “vulnerability” is to point out, as has been done time and time again, that President Obama’s offering the CCPI (that he knew was going nowhere) was to put on display, yet another instance of the republicans refusing to bargain on anything, even when they say “give us this and we’ll talk.” It will work on thinking folks (and the beauty of it is it’s true); but it’ll lose the folks that are looking for a reason … any reason to not vote for Democrats.

Yes, Mc … this is, yet, another instance of you doing your thing.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
16. You are making an unsupported claim: he was offering the CCPI "that he knew was going nowhere"
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 11:31 AM
Jul 2013

Sorry, I live in a fact-based world.

Come back when you have some facts, any facts, that he was offering the CCPI "that he knew was going nowhere".

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
19. Okay ...
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 06:27 PM
Jul 2013

Name ONE Democrat that you suspect would vote for CCPI? What have Democrats actually said about their thoughts on a CCPI? Do you think President Obama has done a similiar count?

What was the republican response to President Obama's offer of the CCPI? Why do you think that was their response?

To give you a prompt ... No Democrat has come out in support of the CCPI. The closest anyone has come is (Democrats in Red districts), "We will CONSIDER the CCPI after Republicans come to the table with increased revenue." Democrats in Blue and purple districts have said "Hell, no. No CCPI." That suggests that CCPI was going nowhere. Again ... don't you think President Obama has done a similiar accounting?

Now, let's consider where President Obama's offer has placed republicans. If they support the CCPI, they face their elderly base.

If they oppose the CCPI, they face a republican primary because they opposed cuts to entitlements.

If vote for the CCPI and it comes with increased taxation (as Democrats have conditioned any consideration), they face their elderly base AND a primaryI.

Now I ask a third time ... don't you think President Obama has done a similiar accounting?

Does that info you Fact-based world?

Paladin

(28,272 posts)
20. Why don't you come back when you can deal in something besides flame bait?
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 07:20 PM
Jul 2013

How's your work on sniper rifles going these days? Yeah, we still remember that ugly thread of yours. You're not fooling anybody.
 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
21. In my opinion, people with emotional problems should not own or possess firearms.
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 11:13 PM
Jul 2013

Name calling is ugly (and childish). Making false accusatory statements is ugly. Threads are not ugly.

If you feel excessively emotional about an April 2013 thread, in which posters exchanged their views (and you - Paladin - let it be known that you are a firearm owner), take up Yoga, give up caffeine, and/or consider getting some help.

Threads are not ugly, and a specific thread in which a question was asked - "While there is a push to ban assault rifles, why not ban sniper rifles?" - is not ugly.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022746518

SunSeeker

(51,665 posts)
5. Excellent. But as you can see, some here can't keep it simple.
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 09:37 PM
Jul 2013

Nor apparently bring themselves to say "Vote Democratic."

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
7. Fascinating, isn't it? They do nothing but encourage people to help defeat
Thu Jul 25, 2013, 09:54 PM
Jul 2013

Democrats at the ballot box.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
18. Do you want a job then vote for the Democratic Party
Sat Jul 27, 2013, 05:37 PM
Jul 2013

The Repubs want to stop money being invested in the infrastructure.

area51

(11,920 posts)
23. If you want health care for every American,
Thu Aug 1, 2013, 04:37 AM
Aug 2013

you'd better find a way to support single-payer; the ACA doesn't cover every single American, nor does it acknowledge health care is a basic human right.

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