2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumGovernment Shutdown Looms Over ObamaCare
ObamaCare is at the center of a rapidly escalating fight that threatens to shut the government down this fall.
Senate Republicans, including two members of the leadership, are coalescing around a proposal to block any government funding resolution that includes money for the implementation of the 2010 Affordable Care Act.
But such a move is a nonstarter for President Obama and congressional Democrats. Republicans have tried this maneuver in Obamas first term, only to back off later to the chagrin of Tea Party leaders.
This time, GOP lawmakers are emboldened by problems plaguing the administrations ObamaCare implementation. But that zeal could put Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) in a tough spot. Both leaders have downplayed previous talk of shuttering the government.
In the House, 64 Republicans have signed onto a letter pressing Boehner not to bring any legislation funding ObamaCare to the floor.
Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/312727-shutdown-looms-over-obamacare#ixzz2ZstYfDQb
BlueToTheBone
(3,747 posts)sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)why not try it again?
You can bet that Obama and the Congressional Dems are quietly going "please, please, please".
The idiots running Congress are so dumb I don't think I'd let any of them walk my fucking dog for fear of them losing the damned thing.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)That would truly be mission accomplished for those assholes.
I've sometimes thought that was the ultimate goal all along.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)They supposedly 'work' a few days a month, but why bother with even that little bit of 'work'. They get their gov handout, why worry about anyone else.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)I hope they do so. Not because I look forward to seeing people hurt, but because this will once and for all expose this do nothing House and party for what they are, and right before an election year too. Shut the whole godforsaken country down so we can slap people awake with the evilness of the Republicans. They will find out , just like last time, that most people want a functioning government.
We need a cleanse of the system. Time to shit out the whole lot of t-bagging idiots.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,450 posts)will President Obama and Senate Democrats EVER accede to such outrageous demands and voluntarily defund their signature piece of legislation that has now been approved by Congress and validated legally and constitutionally by SCOTUS and then further validated by voters when the majority of them voted to re-elect President Obama and keep the Democrats in control of the Senate. The Republicans have to got to learn that, whatever else you believe about the Founding Fathers and how they designed our government, willfully threatening to sabotage the normal operation of government in order to achieve legislative goals was NOT how it was designed to work. If Republicans want to repeal laws they don't like and enact their own agenda, it is their responsibility for convincing the majority of the people of the *rightness* of their policies and then get enough people elected to Congress and to the WH to help them get their policies enacted into law. They are not (or should not be) allowed to achieve their policy aims by threatening to refuse to do their jobs by not keeping government operating normally. They IMHO need to respect the law and if they don't like it, they need to work within our system- which has operated basically fine for over two hundred years now- to get it changed and if they can't get it changed, then they have to live with it. End of story.
apnu
(8,759 posts)And yet nobody suggests that it should be repealed. As far as I know, nobody's voted in the house to repeal it. If Dodd-Frank is so bad as they say (and there are some pretty impossible to implement stipulations in it) where's the GOP hard-on like they have for ACA?
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,450 posts)is that they just have to say that Dodd-Frank, Obamacare, or something (that they hate) is "bad" or "disruptive" or "hurting businesses (or the economy)" and it's practically accepted as the truth and gospel by the media and a lot of uniformed people- despite any real evidence thereof.
apnu
(8,759 posts)Newt tried it and they retreated from the zenith of their power for 8 years. Bohener, Cantor and McConnell tried it and they got shellacked in 2012. This mid-term election is huge for them and they're going to pull this stunt again?
Good by GOP, it was nice knowing you.
UCmeNdc
(9,601 posts)More of the same from the GOP.