The President said the jury has spoken

[bigdarryl]

So does that mean nothing is going to get done as far as Civil Rights charges on Zimmerman

[NoOneMan]

1. Probably not

The justice system shouldn't be used to persecute people everyone hates anyway. It should be fixed so those people don't get away, and it should be investigated when it fails (so maybe that county should be targeted).

It isn't that justice has failed. It just doesn't exist. Maybe the streets will bring some real justice in this case

[RevStPatrick]

6. I think that's the proper answer.

'Bout says it all...

[former9thward]

9. Are you using DU to advocate murder?

[NoOneMan]

11. I'm not telling anyone to do anything

But I'm acknowledging what is possible and I wont cry if it happens by chance. The "justice" system has not served its purpose of averting the furies from seeking revenge (refer to The Oresteia).

[davidpdx]

15. I think given his temper and the sexual abuse allegations

there is a high likelihood he'll find himself in trouble with the law again. He may have gotten an acquittal on the shooting of Martin and the charges dropped on the molestation case, but I think the next time he may not get so lucky in terms of being let free.

[Beacool]

12. That's as sick as what happened to Trayvon.

Would you approve of this man also receiving "street justice"?

http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top_stories/490926/jury-finds-roderick-scott-not-guilty/

[NoOneMan]

14. I am an observer. What I approve or disapprove of is irrelevant to reality

In reality, when men's systems fail to satiate the people's thirst for revenge or provide acceptable resolution/punishment--due to corruption or incompetence--time and time again we see mankind default to the law of Erinyes. This is why, in a mythological/philosophical sense, the justice system was created. It is only useful insofar as it serves its intended purpose. If it merely serves to preserve an unequal, distorted social order, then those the most harmed and exploited eventually react in unpredictable ways.

We can speak in platitudes until we are blue in the face. But around us we see, there will be justice or there will be blood. Normally we prefer the former.

Is that sick? In my opinion, this is all 100 level humanity stuff you'll listen to at any decent liberal arts institution, and I'm not exactly being inflammatory by regurgitating former lectures. Sorry if I've ruffled any feathers.

[ZombieHorde]

2. Hard to say.

My wild guess is Zimmerman will not face any legal penalties from the shooting.

[hrmjustin]

3. I think DOJ lawyers make that call in the end.

[madashelltoo]

4. No.

It means that portion of justice (or just is) has spoken and we have to accept it. However, the Department of Justice will now look into it for civil rights violations. Some say yeah, some say nay. We have to wait and see. Don't give up yet though.

[alsame]

5. The DOJ is seeking tips, so they

will at least try.

DOJ solicits email tips in Zimmerman civil rights probe
July 16, 2013|By Scott Powers, Orlando Sentinel

The U.S. Department of Justice on Monday afternoon appealed to civil rights groups and community leaders, nationally and in Sanford, for help investigating whether a federal criminal case might be brought against George Zimmerman for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, one advocate said.

The DOJ has also set up a public email address to take in tips on its civil rights investigation.

Barbara Arnwine, president and executive director the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law – who earlier in the day joined calls for federal civil rights charges against Zimmerman, said that later in the afternoon, she joined a U.S. Department of Justice conference call to discuss the prospects.

“They were calling on us to actively refer anyone who had any information,” that might build a case against Zimmerman for either a civil rights violation or a hate crime, Arnwine said. “They said they would very aggressively investigate this case.”

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2013-07-16/news/os-george-zimmerman-doj-investigation_1_george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-justice-department

[Igel]

7. That smells of desperation.

They interviewed what--30 people?--that knew GZ and came back with nothing useful.


So now they want to find anybody that might have had dealings with GZ to get information that would lead to them being able to claim that there's a systematic or pervasive view of blacks that would influence him?

Those claims will be a bear to vet. And, if leaked, provide further chum for the media.

[bravenak]

8. I hope they find some violations but I think I'll just have to console myself with the fact that

He can never get rid of his face. He will be profiled everywhere he goes, child killer. He will never feel safe and secure. He will always wonder if someone around him recognizes him and may want him dead. It will be hard to get a normal job. He'll get dirty looks on the street from strangers. People will yell obscenities at him. If he has children, other parents won't let their kids go to his house. He will always know fear. He will wake every morning with the blood of a child on his hands.
He will get death threats. He will never be a cop now. Or a lawyer. He will in his life have to face young black men and women who will recognize him and confront him maybe follow him just to see where he's going.
People won't want him to move to their town. If he ever came to mine I'd hold a go away George sign and personally tell him I will be watching him the whole time he's there. I hope many people watch him and let him know he's being watched like a criminal. He will know how it feel to be profiled and harassed before he dies.
It's not enough but it make me feel better to know that he'll not get away with it again an his life will suck.
The right wing will forget about him and the money will dry up. But we remember.

[lunatica]

10. No.

It means the jury has acquitted him of the crime. Nothing more.

[Beacool]

13. DOJ is going through the motions due to pressure.

It's going to be quite difficult to prove that Zimmerman violated Trayvon's civil rights. I doubt that anything is going to come out of their investigating that we don't already know.

[blkmusclmachine]

16. Holder will intervene only if Medical Marijuana is involved.

[alcibiades_mystery]

17. DOJ has no move here

There's no way Zimmerman will be convicted on civil rights violations. DOJ will 'review' and determine that charges are not appropriate. Make no mistake: George Zimmerman got away with murder, and that's that.

Punishment for Mr. Zimmerman is now out of the question in terms of state-based sanction. He will, of course, have to live with the ignominy and social consequences of his actions (I would myself, for instance, immediately remove myself from any restaurant that he might walk into, and I suspect I'm not the only one who wouldn't be able to eat in the vicinity of a racist murderer like George Zimmerman). Perhaps the more appropriate course of action is to address the larger contextual issues that produced Mr. Zimmerman's outrageous actions.

[bb62bb62]

19. Racist murderer?

Racist murderer?

Is that the Zimmerman who took a black girl to his high school prom?
Is that the Zimmerman who was the only neighbor to welcome a black family to his neighborhood?
Is that the Zimmerman who was a mentor to two black children?

This is not to say that Zimmerman didn't make mistakes. He did. But all the evidence suggests that whatever mistakes he made had nothing to do with racism.

[treestar]

18. No.

Completely different case. The jury has spoken on state criminal charges.

[Socal31]

20. Nothing is going to get done because as of now nothing can be done.

Holder will not fight a losing battle. He is looking for something new that could possibly make a case, but if nothing comes up, nothing further will happen.

[Sunlei]

21. not without evidence. here you read the process. http://www.justice.gov/crt/

http://www.justice.gov/crt/