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2012 Electoral Map Forecast (Good news for Obama) (Original Post) jenmito Apr 2012 OP
Very cool map! CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2012 #1
South Carolina a "tossup"? izquierdista Apr 2012 #2
No. South Carolina is gray-no data available. n/t jenmito Apr 2012 #3
I don't think Romney will get as many electoral votes as McCain did in 2008. Major Hogwash Apr 2012 #4
Actually even if the map stays the same as 08 Romney gets more EVs due to the last census. Mr.Turnip Apr 2012 #6
McCain only got 173 electoral votes in 2008. Major Hogwash Apr 2012 #21
I have to see that to believe it. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #23
Except the evil, socialist, communist, muslim anti-christ democrat is worse Cosmocat Apr 2012 #26
that would be tough rufus dog Apr 2012 #11
Illinois -- seriously, I can't imagine any scenario whereby Obama wouldn't carry Illinois. Denninmi Apr 2012 #5
I'm guessing they don't have any "official" data, Daniel537 Apr 2012 #7
I agree. It's just that they don't have any Intrade data for IL. Doesn't mean he's not favored to jenmito Apr 2012 #8
Zombies wipe out the entire population of Chicago LynneSin Apr 2012 #22
Nader got 4 times as many votes in Missouri as McCain's margin of victoryn in 2008 so maybe libinnyandia Apr 2012 #9
Nader again! Wasn't he satisfied with 2000? mikekohr Apr 2012 #27
Tossups? KinMd Apr 2012 #10
Agreed rufus dog Apr 2012 #12
No-gray doesn't mean "tossup," it means there's been no data taken in those places. n/t jenmito Apr 2012 #14
K&R Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #13
+ Maryland (10), Vermont (3), DC (3), and Rhode Island (4) so 303. yellowcanine Apr 2012 #15
Yup! n/t jenmito Apr 2012 #17
I wish there was some way we could get the national guard from all over the US Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2012 #16
I bet Obama will have people all over it! n/t jenmito Apr 2012 #18
Maryland should not be a toss up Nancy Waterman Apr 2012 #19
"Tossup" was a mistake. Gray means no data. This map is based on betting/trading. yellowcanine Apr 2012 #20
Poor map Zadoc Apr 2012 #24
Pretty much... Drunken Irishman Apr 2012 #25

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
4. I don't think Romney will get as many electoral votes as McCain did in 2008.
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 08:04 PM
Apr 2012

Last edited Tue Apr 17, 2012, 08:27 AM - Edit history (1)

Maybe 140, but that's about it.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
21. McCain only got 173 electoral votes in 2008.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:37 PM
Apr 2012

And he wasn't Mormon.
If you think the Southern Baptists down South are just going to pinch their nose to vote for Romney, you're sadly mistaken.
For a real bible-pounding, tongue-talking, Christian fundamentalist to vote for a Mormon would be the kind of blasphemy that would cause them to be cast into hell for it.

Romney won't win the same states that McCain won in 2008.
And he won't win as many.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
23. I have to see that to believe it.
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 02:00 PM
Apr 2012

As much as they may hate Mormons, the good ol' boys really, really hate Obama. Some will sit it out, but i'd be stunned if Mississippi, Alabama and Louisiana turned blue this year.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
26. Except the evil, socialist, communist, muslim anti-christ democrat is worse
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 07:23 AM
Apr 2012

People lose sight of the fact that the WHOLE republican/conservative scam starts with the foil - the evil liberal.

We saw posted here that Liberty University has told its sheep to shut up and take the Mormon because it is better than the evil liberal (insert here).

Not saying it will mean BO will lose, or that Romney will have the FULL support of every R.

But, the rock red states ARE going to vote for him in totality.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
11. that would be tough
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:21 AM
Apr 2012

Obama would have to either win Missouri to take the place of Indiana, (or win Indiana again) and pick off a couple of other states to make up for the new breakdown of EVs. That being said it will be in the 320 to 340 range.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
7. I'm guessing they don't have any "official" data,
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 08:37 PM
Apr 2012

but common sense tells you how most of the grey states on the map are going to go.

jenmito

(37,326 posts)
8. I agree. It's just that they don't have any Intrade data for IL. Doesn't mean he's not favored to
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 08:39 PM
Apr 2012

win it. IF he wins all the other dark blue AND light blue states plus IL, he wins.

libinnyandia

(1,374 posts)
9. Nader got 4 times as many votes in Missouri as McCain's margin of victoryn in 2008 so maybe
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 09:47 PM
Apr 2012

Obama can win Missouri this time.

KinMd

(966 posts)
10. Tossups?
Mon Apr 16, 2012, 11:57 PM
Apr 2012

The map has Maryland, Rhode Island, and the District of Columbia in grey? Really? Romney couldn't carry any of those if his dog Seamus was the only one on the ballot besides him

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
12. Agreed
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:22 AM
Apr 2012

As it stand now there is no way Romney can get to 270, thus the forthcoming dirtiest election in American history.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
16. I wish there was some way we could get the national guard from all over the US
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 12:24 PM
Apr 2012

to man every single solitary polling place in Ohio on election day to insure that all is
kosher.

In addition, the Democratic Party (don't know who else would pay) should pay
for an independent IT audit of all voting software. This independent audit
team should also be hired on election night to fully monitor info security.

Just saying.

They know they have to have Ohio. And ever since BushCo defrauded this
country into a war based on fake premises, I trust no one with piddly
election fraud.

Nancy Waterman

(6,407 posts)
19. Maryland should not be a toss up
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:22 PM
Apr 2012

There is not a chance in hell it will go red. Never. It is so reliable no one comes here to campaign.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
20. "Tossup" was a mistake. Gray means no data. This map is based on betting/trading.
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 03:35 PM
Apr 2012

Illinois, Maryland, Vermont, Rhode Island, DC are all clear blue states which end up gray here so it is clear that this is Obama's election to lose at this point; Romney is nowhere close to 270 EVs.

Zadoc

(195 posts)
24. Poor map
Thu Apr 19, 2012, 02:19 PM
Apr 2012

Basing an electoral map off of Intrade, a political betting site, is a bad idea. Those guys are always wrong until a few weeks, or even a few days out. The only basis should be on polling. Of which there is very little right now, except for in swing states.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
25. Pretty much...
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 06:42 AM
Apr 2012

It's good to know where the trend is, but you're absolutely right. Intrade is only effective essentially a couple weeks prior to the election. Yeah, they were spot on in '08 (well, except for Indiana & NC, I believe), but again, it only becomes extremely reliable the closer we get to the election.

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