2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumKey Obama staffers working to unseat one of the top progressive Dems in Congress
Not The Onion.
http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_22979879/ro-khannas-congressional-campaign-team-looks-like-obama
General consultant Jeremy Bird -- Obama 2012's national field director
Campaign chairman Steve Spinner -- Obama 2012 fundraising "bundler" and national finance committee member...
Consultant John Kupper -- message/ad consultant to Obama's 2004 Senate and 2008 presidential campaigns; still advises Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, Obama's former White House chief-of-staff, since helping him win office in 2011
At this point you must be saying, Welcome to California, home of the all-new "top two" electoral system in which primaries are meaningless. A repuke state senator got that passed as his pound of flesh for a key budget vote back in the Ahh-nuld era. Khanna is a Democrat, or at least has a D after his name. Rep. Honda is one of the 15 most progressive Dems on the hill, with a 96% rating. Khanna, with his Rahmbo adviser and glitzy Silicon Valley fundraisers: not so much.
The way this generally shakes out, in the sapphire-Blue Bay Area, is that both of the top two finishers are Dems. Then the repukes, who are just numerous enough to swing the runoff, go with the DINO, in this case Khanna. That's how an unknown city councilman from the small city of Dublin toppled Pete Stark. Khanna is now wishing he had made that race. And so are many of us here in the South Bay.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)(do I need a sarcasm thingie?)
I'm getting more disgusted by the day and I didn't think that was possible.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)He works for the corporate anti-progressive elite?
At what point???
I am a progressive, not a democrat. I am a socialist, not a democrat. I am an anarchist, not a democrat.
I think it's important to stop playing with vanguard party politics, and have a peoples' movement. Afterall, that's how things get done.
If we want Labor Rights and social justice/fairness, we, collectively, have to be the movement, and stop trusting figureheads and parties that do not have our interests at heart.
We have to work as a class. The Democratic party is not a working-class party. As soon as we understand this, maybe we can get things done.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)who is trying to defeat one of ARE HEROEZ.
If you really think Obama has an active hand in this you are delusional.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)I'm referring to the cummulative incidents since Obama became president. I took a break from my hiatus in voting to elect him twice. For my efforts, he's been talking out of both sides of his mouth. He has the ear of the bankers, corporate and financial elite, but dismisses us progressives/leftists.
Too bad you want to relegate this to just this incident, and for that, you are delusional.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Since Obama literally has nothing to do with this. Indeed, he's endorsed Honda! Must be a secret trick, I know...
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Endorse Honda, but send his evil minions to unseat Honda! Mwahahahahaha!
Get a hobby, my dude.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)... you know, the cumulative policies that have been anti-progressive.
But, sure, we can focus on whether or not his advisors are purging progressives from campaigning.
I have several hobbies, dude. One of them is not being delusional.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)are not purging anyone, they're offering their services to a candidate willing to pay them; (3) Obama and every other national Democratic leader of note endorsed Honda.
So, sorry, this is not a data point in your grand theory of why Obama is the devil.
brooklynite
(94,535 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Um, OK?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)What is he going to do, issue an Executive Order?
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)This would be like you hiring someone to mow your lawn. And then, after your lawn is mowed, some dude down the street hires the same person to mow his lawn.
So no, it has nothing to do with Barack Obama, no matter how badly you want it to. People jump from campaign to campaign all the time. And they are free to do so.
President Obama has formally endorsed the progressive incumbent. Get off his nuts about it.
Cha
(297,196 posts)it onto the President. I'll repeat the Key Part in the Article.
"Even though the President has already Endorsed Mike Honda".. the staffers don't work for him anymore and are free to do what they like.
Go MIKE HONDA! I'm sending Mike Honda some money.. just like I did Ed Markey recently.
http://honda.house.gov/
LiberalFighter
(50,912 posts)They don't work for Obama for life. Especially for free.
jerseyjack
(1,361 posts)So, I have changed my position. Obama is the mostest wonderful president we have ever had since Martin Van Buren. He is even better than Rutherford B. Hayes.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)forestpath
(3,102 posts)I know I feel the same exact same kind of dread of reading the news every day now that I had between 2000-2008.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)These are corporate shills calling themselves Dems...
How many more "clues" from the Elite Dems do We need to understand continued Support for these particular Dems is undermining our Own self-interest--just as we accuse the GOP of doing. We stand by in wonderment asking Why do they continue to elect these same people over and over? What about Us?
bocephus0706
(27 posts)Jeremy Bird, is not anywhere near California.......I am not sure this is a valid post
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)and in Khanna's case, the money. Two of the others mentioned are based in NC.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)with them now. Khanna probably offered them tons of money.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)What his aides and in particular his former aides do is on them.
Cha
(297,196 posts)comprehensive article!
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)but that so many of them have flocked to the banner of a political novice who is targeting a Dem with a proven progressive track record gives me the willies.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)My bigger concern is running against incumbent Dems in general. Majorities matter.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)dsc
(52,161 posts)now that said, you are correct about the primary system it is horrible.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)and then against a repuke in the fall.
But the repuke might actually have won.
Dumbest primary so far: State Senate District 15. There were exactly two candidates: Asm. Jim Beall, Jr. and former Asm. Joe Coto (both Dems, with Beall the progressive and Coto more DINO-ish). Guess who the top two finishers were in the June primary? Why, Beall and Coto, in that order! So they both moved on to the November general lection. Beall won again.
dsc
(52,161 posts)the top two slots were taken by the GOP in a majority Obama district. We had a bunch of candidates and they only had 2.
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)dsc
(52,161 posts)ancianita
(36,053 posts)What the hell has Debbie Wasserman Schultz got to do with this, I wonder.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)No names are on the ballot yet. This is for next fall.
Also, the local grapevine has it that Zoe Lofgren may not run for re-election in her neighboring district. That would give a whole new meaning to the phrase "Shark Tank" (also our local hockey arena ), with Khanna in the role of the great (non)white.
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)Don't see why people are unfairly invoking Obama in their career decisions.
They're just doing the job for which they were hired.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)why you would think this is a Democracy where people can run for elections in primaries and general elections!
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)and trying to replace him with a big-bucks Silicon Valley type who is likely tied in with Fix The Debt, etc.
How many top repukes have joined in similar efforts by teabaggers to defeat established R's like Dick Lugar?
whistler162
(11,155 posts)Peoplez freak out over the craziest things!
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)He's the newly elected rep from Marin and Sonoma counties north of SF.
http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2013/04/10/jared-huffman-rips-ro-khanna-bid-in-south-bay/
In an interview, Huffman, who won his North Bay district after Rep. Lynn Woolsey retired, said he found Khannas challenge troubling.
You already get the sense that that burn rate from a huge team of consultants and all of the fundraising firepower, millions of dollars that Democrats need around the country to win races and take back the House, are instead going to be diverted to an intramural fight between Democrats, Huffman said. For no real reason. Mike Honda is a great member of Congress....
Huffman said he was dismayed that this expensive battle is even going to take place. He said he had no idea how much it would cost but, obviously were talking millions of dollars and those dollars really could make a difference in unseating Republicans in seats that we hope to take away. I think thats probably going to cost Mr. Khanna among Democrats who understand that context.
I hadn't even thought of the money angle. I guess that's why they pay Jared the big bucks.