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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 12:35 PM Apr 2013

Key Obama staffers working to unseat one of the top progressive Dems in Congress

Not The Onion.

http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_22979879/ro-khannas-congressional-campaign-team-looks-like-obama

Former Obama administration official Ro Khanna's campaign to unseat... Rep. Mike Honda, D-San Jose, is replete with staffers who worked to elect and re-elect President Obama, even though the president already has endorsed Honda....

General consultant Jeremy Bird -- Obama 2012's national field director

Campaign chairman Steve Spinner -- Obama 2012 fundraising "bundler" and national finance committee member...

Consultant John Kupper -- message/ad consultant to Obama's 2004 Senate and 2008 presidential campaigns; still advises Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, Obama's former White House chief-of-staff, since helping him win office in 2011


At this point you must be saying, Welcome to California, home of the all-new "top two" electoral system in which primaries are meaningless. A repuke state senator got that passed as his pound of flesh for a key budget vote back in the Ahh-nuld era. Khanna is a Democrat, or at least has a D after his name. Rep. Honda is one of the 15 most progressive Dems on the hill, with a 96% rating. Khanna, with his Rahmbo adviser and glitzy Silicon Valley fundraisers: not so much.

The way this generally shakes out, in the sapphire-Blue Bay Area, is that both of the top two finishers are Dems. Then the repukes, who are just numerous enough to swing the runoff, go with the DINO, in this case Khanna. That's how an unknown city councilman from the small city of Dublin toppled Pete Stark. Khanna is now wishing he had made that race. And so are many of us here in the South Bay.


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Key Obama staffers working to unseat one of the top progressive Dems in Congress (Original Post) KamaAina Apr 2013 OP
Great... haikugal Apr 2013 #1
At what point can we just say that Obama doesn't work for us? Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #2
Yes, because evil Obummer told those people to go and work for that awful Democrat Arkana Apr 2013 #3
I'm not only referring to just this incident. Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #5
This incident wouldn't be "cummulative" even under your refined claim alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #10
You don't think he has any control over his advisors? Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #11
So it is a secret trick! alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #12
It still doesn't take away from my point ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2013 #19
(1) these are not advisors, they were employees; (2) they geek tragedy Apr 2013 #24
C'mon, why ruin a good conspiracy theory? brooklynite Apr 2013 #29
One of your *hobbies* is not being delusional? alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #30
No, he doesn't. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #13
These people aren't advisors, they are former employees of a campaign that is over. phleshdef Apr 2013 #15
I knew there would be at least someone who didn't get this article and knee jerk Cha Apr 2013 #20
Former is of course the key. LiberalFighter Apr 2013 #22
I don't know. Each time I say he sucks turds, I get flamed. jerseyjack Apr 2013 #27
OBAMA BAD BAD BAD BAD!!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #42
More and more it feels like reading headlines about Bush, only they're about Obama. forestpath Apr 2013 #4
True dems have Left the Party fredamae Apr 2013 #6
what are they saying here bocephus0706 Apr 2013 #7
Professional campaign people go where the action is KamaAina Apr 2013 #9
These are people who worked to get Obama elected in 2012. He might not have anything to do octoberlib Apr 2013 #8
President Obama has endorsed Mike Honda. AtomicKitten Apr 2013 #14
thanks for the link, AtomicKitten.. very Cha Apr 2013 #21
In 2012, was there ANYONE in Dem campaign politics that didn't work for the Presidential campaign? phleshdef Apr 2013 #16
Perhaps not KamaAina Apr 2013 #17
I don't think this is anything all that out of the ordinary. phleshdef Apr 2013 #18
Money is a hell of a drug. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #23
Stark lost because he said dumb things and got himself in trouble for saying them dsc Apr 2013 #25
He would have had a better shot against Swalwell in a Dem primary KamaAina Apr 2013 #26
not as dumb as the seat we lost because dsc Apr 2013 #32
What dumb things did Stark say? avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #39
Here is a link dsc Apr 2013 #41
Could Khanna withdraw from the race, remove his name from the ballot? ancianita Apr 2013 #28
Good point. KamaAina Apr 2013 #33
Some people have amoral careers... working for anyone that hires them. Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #31
How dare they........ whistler162 Apr 2013 #34
These top Democratic operatives are challenging an incumbent Dem KamaAina Apr 2013 #35
The horror... the horror! whistler162 Apr 2013 #38
Don't take it from me. Take it from Rep. Jared Huffman. KamaAina Apr 2013 #36
Ugh. AzDar Apr 2013 #37
You headline made it seem that WH staffers were somehow involved, which of course is not the case. grantcart Apr 2013 #40

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
1. Great...
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 12:41 PM
Apr 2013

(do I need a sarcasm thingie?)

I'm getting more disgusted by the day and I didn't think that was possible.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
2. At what point can we just say that Obama doesn't work for us?
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 12:47 PM
Apr 2013

He works for the corporate anti-progressive elite?

At what point???

I am a progressive, not a democrat. I am a socialist, not a democrat. I am an anarchist, not a democrat.

I think it's important to stop playing with vanguard party politics, and have a peoples' movement. Afterall, that's how things get done.

If we want Labor Rights and social justice/fairness, we, collectively, have to be the movement, and stop trusting figureheads and parties that do not have our interests at heart.

We have to work as a class. The Democratic party is not a working-class party. As soon as we understand this, maybe we can get things done.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
3. Yes, because evil Obummer told those people to go and work for that awful Democrat
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 12:50 PM
Apr 2013

who is trying to defeat one of ARE HEROEZ.

If you really think Obama has an active hand in this you are delusional.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
5. I'm not only referring to just this incident.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 12:55 PM
Apr 2013

I'm referring to the cummulative incidents since Obama became president. I took a break from my hiatus in voting to elect him twice. For my efforts, he's been talking out of both sides of his mouth. He has the ear of the bankers, corporate and financial elite, but dismisses us progressives/leftists.

Too bad you want to relegate this to just this incident, and for that, you are delusional.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
10. This incident wouldn't be "cummulative" even under your refined claim
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 03:02 PM
Apr 2013

Since Obama literally has nothing to do with this. Indeed, he's endorsed Honda! Must be a secret trick, I know...

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
12. So it is a secret trick!
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 03:33 PM
Apr 2013

Endorse Honda, but send his evil minions to unseat Honda! Mwahahahahaha!

Get a hobby, my dude.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
19. It still doesn't take away from my point ...
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:18 PM
Apr 2013

... you know, the cumulative policies that have been anti-progressive.

But, sure, we can focus on whether or not his advisors are purging progressives from campaigning.

I have several hobbies, dude. One of them is not being delusional.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
24. (1) these are not advisors, they were employees; (2) they
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:52 PM
Apr 2013

are not purging anyone, they're offering their services to a candidate willing to pay them; (3) Obama and every other national Democratic leader of note endorsed Honda.

So, sorry, this is not a data point in your grand theory of why Obama is the devil.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
15. These people aren't advisors, they are former employees of a campaign that is over.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 03:48 PM
Apr 2013

This would be like you hiring someone to mow your lawn. And then, after your lawn is mowed, some dude down the street hires the same person to mow his lawn.

So no, it has nothing to do with Barack Obama, no matter how badly you want it to. People jump from campaign to campaign all the time. And they are free to do so.

President Obama has formally endorsed the progressive incumbent. Get off his nuts about it.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
20. I knew there would be at least someone who didn't get this article and knee jerk
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:37 PM
Apr 2013

it onto the President. I'll repeat the Key Part in the Article.

"Even though the President has already Endorsed Mike Honda".. the staffers don't work for him anymore and are free to do what they like.

A former Obama administration official is launching a primary bid against Rep. Mike Honda (D-Calif.), defying party leaders from House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to the president himself
.

Honda has already been endorsed by President Obama, Pelosi, Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Fla.), Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman Steve Israel (N.Y.), and California Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer. Those endorsements were meant to scare off Khanna.


This isn’t the first time Khanna has taken on an entrenched congressman. In 2004, he ran against the late Tom Lantos (D-Calif.), attacking him for his support for the Iraq war. Lantos won in a landslide.
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/291547-former-obama-aide-defies-dems-to-challenge-honda-

Go MIKE HONDA!
I'm sending Mike Honda some money.. just like I did Ed Markey recently.

http://honda.house.gov/
 

jerseyjack

(1,361 posts)
27. I don't know. Each time I say he sucks turds, I get flamed.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 07:46 PM
Apr 2013

So, I have changed my position. Obama is the mostest wonderful president we have ever had since Martin Van Buren. He is even better than Rutherford B. Hayes.

 

forestpath

(3,102 posts)
4. More and more it feels like reading headlines about Bush, only they're about Obama.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 12:54 PM
Apr 2013

I know I feel the same exact same kind of dread of reading the news every day now that I had between 2000-2008.

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
6. True dems have Left the Party
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 01:00 PM
Apr 2013

These are corporate shills calling themselves Dems...

How many more "clues" from the Elite Dems do We need to understand continued Support for these particular Dems is undermining our Own self-interest--just as we accuse the GOP of doing. We stand by in wonderment asking Why do they continue to elect these same people over and over? What about Us?

bocephus0706

(27 posts)
7. what are they saying here
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 01:35 PM
Apr 2013

Jeremy Bird, is not anywhere near California.......I am not sure this is a valid post

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
9. Professional campaign people go where the action is
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 02:39 PM
Apr 2013

and in Khanna's case, the money. Two of the others mentioned are based in NC.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
8. These are people who worked to get Obama elected in 2012. He might not have anything to do
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 02:06 PM
Apr 2013

with them now. Khanna probably offered them tons of money.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
17. Perhaps not
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:07 PM
Apr 2013

but that so many of them have flocked to the banner of a political novice who is targeting a Dem with a proven progressive track record gives me the willies.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
18. I don't think this is anything all that out of the ordinary.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 04:08 PM
Apr 2013

My bigger concern is running against incumbent Dems in general. Majorities matter.

dsc

(52,161 posts)
25. Stark lost because he said dumb things and got himself in trouble for saying them
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 05:51 PM
Apr 2013

now that said, you are correct about the primary system it is horrible.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
26. He would have had a better shot against Swalwell in a Dem primary
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 06:06 PM
Apr 2013

and then against a repuke in the fall.

But the repuke might actually have won.

Dumbest primary so far: State Senate District 15. There were exactly two candidates: Asm. Jim Beall, Jr. and former Asm. Joe Coto (both Dems, with Beall the progressive and Coto more DINO-ish). Guess who the top two finishers were in the June primary? Why, Beall and Coto, in that order! So they both moved on to the November general lection. Beall won again.

dsc

(52,161 posts)
32. not as dumb as the seat we lost because
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 10:25 PM
Apr 2013

the top two slots were taken by the GOP in a majority Obama district. We had a bunch of candidates and they only had 2.

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
28. Could Khanna withdraw from the race, remove his name from the ballot?
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 07:46 PM
Apr 2013

What the hell has Debbie Wasserman Schultz got to do with this, I wonder.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
33. Good point.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 11:27 PM
Apr 2013

No names are on the ballot yet. This is for next fall.

Also, the local grapevine has it that Zoe Lofgren may not run for re-election in her neighboring district. That would give a whole new meaning to the phrase "Shark Tank" (also our local hockey arena ), with Khanna in the role of the great (non)white.

 

Comrade_McKenzie

(2,526 posts)
31. Some people have amoral careers... working for anyone that hires them.
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 09:48 PM
Apr 2013

Don't see why people are unfairly invoking Obama in their career decisions.

They're just doing the job for which they were hired.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
34. How dare they........
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 05:34 PM
Apr 2013

why you would think this is a Democracy where people can run for elections in primaries and general elections!

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
35. These top Democratic operatives are challenging an incumbent Dem
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 06:07 PM
Apr 2013

and trying to replace him with a big-bucks Silicon Valley type who is likely tied in with Fix The Debt, etc.

How many top repukes have joined in similar efforts by teabaggers to defeat established R's like Dick Lugar?

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
36. Don't take it from me. Take it from Rep. Jared Huffman.
Wed Apr 10, 2013, 07:07 PM
Apr 2013

He's the newly elected rep from Marin and Sonoma counties north of SF.

http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2013/04/10/jared-huffman-rips-ro-khanna-bid-in-south-bay/

Freshman Rep. Jared Huffman, D-San Rafael, had some unkind things to say Wednesday about Ro Khanna’s challenge to incumbent Rep. Mike Honda in the South Bay.

In an interview, Huffman, who won his North Bay district after Rep. Lynn Woolsey retired, said he found Khanna’s challenge “troubling.”

“You already get the sense that that burn rate from a huge team of consultants and all of the fundraising firepower, millions of dollars that Democrats need around the country to win races and take back the House, are instead going to be diverted to an intramural fight between Democrats,” Huffman said. “For no real reason. Mike Honda is a great member of Congress.”...

Huffman said he was dismayed that “this expensive battle is even going to take place.” He said he had no idea how much it would cost but, “obviously we’re talking millions of dollars and those dollars really could make a difference in unseating Republicans in seats that we hope to take away. I think that’s probably going to cost Mr. Khanna among Democrats who understand that context.”


I hadn't even thought of the money angle. I guess that's why they pay Jared the big bucks.
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