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PHOENIX President Obamas re-election campaign is dispatching workers across Arizonas college campuses and Latino neighborhoods this spring, registering as many new voters as they can in an organized, three-month effort to determine whether they can put this unlikely state into play for Democrats this November.
By any measure the obstacles are considerable: Arizona has voted for precisely one Democratic president since Truman was in the White House. Yet Mr. Obamas aides said in interviews that they thought it was possible they could move the needle of history by winning in 2012 a state that analysts believe is heading Democratic in national elections, but may not be there yet.
Obama strategists are simply following the same techniques they used in 2008 when putting states like North Carolina and Indiana into play. Then, too, there was much initial skepticism, though both states ended up going for Mr. Obama.
Yet for all those signs of organizing activity and the fact that demographic and political changes across the West have made this region increasingly tempting ground for Democrats Mr. Obamas campaign strategists are not yet convinced he can win the state this November. Mr. Obamas aides said they closely monitored the organizing here and would assess the result of their work over the next few months to see whether it made sense to pour money and resources into Arizona this fall.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/16/us/politics/obama-campaign-turns-attention-on-arizona.html?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)MindMover
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freshwest
(53,661 posts)movonne
(9,623 posts)people that have moved there from more liberal states and the latino's...that is if they don't find a way stop them from voting...
freshwest
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There are numerous factors that cause people to stay away from the political process other than TV or sports which are usually blamed. Simply not enough hours in the day, family matters, financial burdens, long hours.
thelordofhell
(4,569 posts)With Mitt Romney being the candidate, Southern Utah will come out in droves to vote their guy in.
msongs
(67,406 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Or are you terming AZ, southern UT?
Sounds like an empire to me...
Similiar to that Canadian World Domination website a few years back.
That was hilarious...
But I guess we could just as well call Catholic voters part of the Vatican, if we want to cross geographical boundaries for the landscape of the mind.
KarenS
(4,077 posts)lots of Republicans and Libertarians not to mention that large Mormon population (that someone else has already pointed out). I've given up on ever being happy on election day here.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Obama was within 10 points in 2008, while having a 15 point margin among women nationwide and a 15 point margin statewide among hispanics.
But now the Hispanic population in Arizona is larger than in 2008 and Obama has a 60 point margin among Latinos and a larger margin among women nationwide.
I think your response was more based on what you think Arizona is than based on data about what it really is, in 2012.
(PS-the way you described Arizona could be said about Nevada. the demographics are the same basically, both heavily Mormon...but Obama won Nevada by 12 points in 2008, having turned a 6 point deficit by Kerry into a win...that in this environment Obama could put Arizona in play and not try for it would be foolish)
jillan
(39,451 posts)And don't forget that the only reason Brewer got to be governor in the first place is because Janet Napolitano went to go work for this administration.
Yes, we have alot of crazies in our state legislature... but Az is not as red as people think.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)It will be just as full of redneck cowboys and racist pieces of crap then, too.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)For down ballot candidates, if nothing else.
Slamdrive
(14 posts)They have alianated working-class people especially Latinos there.