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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 05:11 PM Apr 2013

Dem. Senator from very liberal state opposes marriage equality, was last vice-chair of DLC

Last edited Mon Apr 1, 2013, 06:09 PM - Edit history (1)

April Fools!

Except, no, it's actually true.

The 8 Democratic Senators still holding out on marriage equality:

1. Joe Manchin--(state voted overwhelmingly for Romney and McCain)
2. Joe Donnely (state voted narrowly for Obama in 2008 and overwhelmingly for Romney in 2012)
3. Bill Nelson--(state voter narrowly for Obama in 2012 and comfortably in 2008)
4. Heidi Heitkamp (state voted overwhelmingly for Romney and McCain)
5. Mary Landrieu (state voted overwhelmingly for Romney and McCain)
6. Tim Johnson (state voted overwhelmingly for Romney and McCain)
7. Mark Pryor (state voted overwhelmingly for Romney and McCain)
8. Tom Carper (state voted Obama +26% in 2008 and 2012)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/26/gay-marriage-rights_n_2957319.html
(note: Casey and Hagen flipped since this story was written):


Tom Carper, career piss boy for the DLC:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council

The DLC's last chairman was former Representative Harold Ford of Tennessee, and its vice chair was Senator Thomas R. Carper of Delaware. Its CEO was Bruce Reed.


Why hasn't this regressive, soulless p.o.s. been primaried by someone in tune with the state yet?

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Dem. Senator from very liberal state opposes marriage equality, was last vice-chair of DLC (Original Post) geek tragedy Apr 2013 OP
Wolves in sheep's clothing. Scuba Apr 2013 #1
I disagree. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #2
We can scratch Carper from that list SteveG Apr 2013 #9
Since the DLC doesn't exist anymore, let's just call him a conservative Democrat frazzled Apr 2013 #3
It died only two years ago. geek tragedy Apr 2013 #4
Delaware isn't as liberal as you think SteveG Apr 2013 #5
it still doesn't make sense, those types are liberal on social issues but very pro corporate JI7 Apr 2013 #6
I'd say that we're doing pretty well so far to get all but 8 Democratic Senators to sign on Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2013 #7
Perhaps the "p.o.s." hasn't been primaried because he... brooklynite Apr 2013 #8
Carper has just announced that he supports marriage equality. My problem is with Bill Nelson. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #10
Peer pressure works. nt geek tragedy Apr 2013 #11
Whatever works. Just glad that he's onboard. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #12

SteveG

(3,109 posts)
9. We can scratch Carper from that list
Tue Apr 2, 2013, 12:09 PM
Apr 2013

He came out today in favor of Marriage Equality.

In a Facebook post, he wrote:

As our society has changed and evolved, so too has the public's opinion on gay marriage – and so has mine. I pray every day for God to grant me the wisdom to do what is right. Through my prayers and conversations with my family and countless friends and Delawareans, I've been reminded of the power of one of my core values: the Golden Rule. It calls on us to treat others as we want to be treated. That means, to me, that all Americans ultimately should be free to marry the people they love and intend to share their lives with, regardless of their sexual orientation, and that's why today, after a great deal of soul searching, I'm endorsing marriage equality.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
3. Since the DLC doesn't exist anymore, let's just call him a conservative Democrat
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 05:35 PM
Apr 2013

People are so obsessed with labeling people DLC, but the organization was dying for years, and closed its doors more than two years ago. It's dead. We have to think up new names.

That doesn't change the meaning of the post, regarding the remaining Democratic senators and their opposition to same-sex marriage. Let's just not call them "DLC." It's pointless now, like calling people Whigs or Know-Nothings (though the latter might apply).

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
4. It died only two years ago.
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 05:38 PM
Apr 2013

And he was on the bridge when it went under.

Him and Bruce Reed and Harold Ford.

I understand people from places like West Virginia and North Dakota.

Can you imagine the Republicans allowing a squishy-centrist to represent Idaho, Wyoming, Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Kansas, etc?

SteveG

(3,109 posts)
5. Delaware isn't as liberal as you think
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 06:03 PM
Apr 2013

yes, Obama/Biden carried the state easily, but look at the breakdown by our 4 major electoral units

Wilmington Rural New Castle Kent Sussex State
PRESIDENT
OBAMA BARACK 26,635 140,447 35,527 39,975 242,584
ROMNEY MITT 3,828 77,402 32,135 52,119 165,484
STEIN JILL 107 1,091 333 409 1,940
JOHNSON GARY 189 2,297 677 719 3,882
Office Total 30,759 221,237 68,672 93,222 413,890

now look at the election for Senator

CARPER THOMAS R. 25,287 151,957 40,750 47,421 265,415
WADE KEVIN 2,448 54,218 22,561 36,473 115,700
GROFF ANDREW RICHARD 226 1,825 457 683 3,191
PIRES ALEXANDER 731 6,143 2,522 5,904 15,300
Office Total 28,692 214,143 66,290 90,481 399,606

One other thing, Carper is originally from Beckley, WV.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
6. it still doesn't make sense, those types are liberal on social issues but very pro corporate
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 07:15 PM
Apr 2013

it seems to come down to him maybe really opposing this right for gays..

i mean, you have people from FAR more social conservative states coming out in support of it. there is no excuse for his opposition.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
7. I'd say that we're doing pretty well so far to get all but 8 Democratic Senators to sign on
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 08:26 PM
Apr 2013

The rest will, however, be along shortly. I'm a bit disappointed in Donnelly (my Senator from Red State Indiana) but just think how many people, including our President, "evolved" on the issue in just four short years? Back in 2007-2008, Democratic candidates were talking about Civil Unions. Now, nearly everybody is talking about marriage equality, something that I thought would take a considerably longer time.

brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
8. Perhaps the "p.o.s." hasn't been primaried because he...
Mon Apr 1, 2013, 10:19 PM
Apr 2013

voted to repeal "Don't Ask, Don't Tell", and supports the repeal of DOMA. But I suppose statements are much more important than actual votes...

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