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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:48 PM Mar 2013

Rand Paul Begins Talking Filibuster Against John Brennan

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) announced just before noon Wednesday on the Senate floor that he plans to speak “for the next few hours” in opposition to the nomination of John Brennan to lead the CIA.

Paul, who strongly opposes the Brennan nomination and the Obama administration’s use of unmanned aerial drones, becomes the first senator to make use of the procedural tactic in more than two years and the first to do so since the Senate approved a bipartisan rules reform package in January.

“I will speak until I can no longer speak,” Paul said as he began his remarks. “I will speak as long as it takes, until the alarm is sounded from coast to coast that our Constitution is important, that your rights to trial by jury are precious, that no American should be killed by a drone on American soil without first being charged with a crime, without first being found to be guilty by a court.”

Paul’s comments from the Senate floor come after he raised his objections to the drone policy Wednesday morning during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing that included testimony from Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/03/06/rand-paul-begins-talking-filibuster-against-john-brennan/

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Rand Paul Begins Talking Filibuster Against John Brennan (Original Post) Purveyor Mar 2013 OP
Here we go again. Third Doctor Mar 2013 #1
Paul: "I will speak until I can no longer speak" Jeff In Milwaukee Mar 2013 #2
Rand Paul couldn't spell the constitution. Neither could his father Slick Ronnie graham4anything Mar 2013 #3
They sure did! TommyCelt Mar 2013 #5
lol pmorlan1 Mar 2013 #10
LOL. How are you doing? graham4anything Mar 2013 #11
lol pmorlan1 Mar 2013 #12
You didn't vote for him, did you??? Rand Paul is the worst of the worst & dangerous graham4anything Mar 2013 #13
No pmorlan1 Mar 2013 #14
That's how Hillary earned my love and respect. graham4anything Mar 2013 #16
lol pmorlan1 Mar 2013 #17
Rand, is doing this to try and divide and he has ulterior motives graham4anything Mar 2013 #18
Ditch Mitch pmorlan1 Mar 2013 #26
Humane warfare TommyCelt Mar 2013 #32
Thank God FDR did not take the advice of Rand Paul after Pearl Harbor. graham4anything Mar 2013 #33
??? TommyCelt Mar 2013 #35
I'm certainly no fan of RP TommyCelt Mar 2013 #4
That is Rand Pauls' characterization of Holder's letter--and it is false. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #6
Details.. not too many pay attention to those pesky details that would Cha Mar 2013 #23
Unbelievable pmorlan1 Mar 2013 #8
And, would rand paul be speaking out against the bush admin... or is Cha Mar 2013 #22
I don't know what Paul's agenda is... TommyCelt Mar 2013 #24
I do consider the source.. Rand Paul is a proven Lying sack Cha Mar 2013 #25
I had lots of problems with GWB Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2013 #31
I support the filibuster pmorlan1 Mar 2013 #7
Eric Holder is a true Patriot, and want him for US Supreme Court. graham4anything Mar 2013 #34
If he doesn't get the media attention he is seeking, he'll be done in a few more hours max. politicaljunkie41910 Mar 2013 #9
Dear Mods, Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #15
Critical Thinking pmorlan1 Mar 2013 #19
Quite right comrade TommyCelt Mar 2013 #20
AMEN! mwrguy Mar 2013 #28
Senator Wyden pmorlan1 Mar 2013 #21
Watching on CSpan 2 Dorn Mar 2013 #27
You can hate Rand Paul ChangeUp106 Mar 2013 #29
I wonder if they allow Senators to have players that they can listen to instead of his voice? LiberalFighter Mar 2013 #30

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
2. Paul: "I will speak until I can no longer speak"
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:52 PM
Mar 2013

Now if he'd said, "I will speak until I can no longer speak intelligently" that might have been the shortest filibuster on record.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
3. Rand Paul couldn't spell the constitution. Neither could his father Slick Ronnie
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:07 PM
Mar 2013

In WW2 they dealt well with traitors like the Pauls.
As they did in the founders time. Ask Benedict Ron Paul Arnold

TommyCelt

(838 posts)
5. They sure did!
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:21 PM
Mar 2013

In WW2 if they wouldn't or couldn't serve in the military, lock'em up in Manzanar; that showed'em huh?

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
12. lol
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:42 PM
Mar 2013

Good. I'm raising hell on the telephone today. lol I'm calling Senators trying to get them on the floor of the Senate to join Senator Paul. He's not right often but this time he's spot on.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
13. You didn't vote for him, did you??? Rand Paul is the worst of the worst & dangerous
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:45 PM
Mar 2013

Last edited Wed Mar 6, 2013, 04:25 PM - Edit history (1)

As Richard Clarke said "Drones are the most humane form of warfare even invented."

Rand Paul is akin to Jorg Haider.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
14. No
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:51 PM
Mar 2013

No, I didn't vote for him. I'm not a Libertarian. I think they have wacko ideas about not having any regulations on business. On this issue, however, he is correct. I support people for their positions on the issues not because they have a D after their name. I usually don't support Republicans because they usually hold a position that is the opposite of my own. It used to be that my views and the Democrats positions were always in sync. Since Bush, sadly that is not the case. I don't give my support unconditionally. They have to earn my vote and my support.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
16. That's how Hillary earned my love and respect.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 04:12 PM
Mar 2013

They have to earn my vote and my support

Who would have thought, right?

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
18. Rand, is doing this to try and divide and he has ulterior motives
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 04:23 PM
Mar 2013

To get enough votes to get reelected, or in an attempt to get votes to stop democratic party in 2014 and 2016
Perhaps to stop Ashley Judd.

So what's your take on her? Any chance to beat Mitch?
Personally, I would rather she take down Rand, it would be highly ironic, given the Paul's views on women and minorities.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
26. Ditch Mitch
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:13 PM
Mar 2013

I'm sure he has many reasons for his filibuster but I support what he's saying and I think he believes in it. I get his email newsletter (I got on his newsletter because I went to his facebook page and criticized him and posted support for his civil liberties stance). He is not perfect on civil liberties issues but he's better than most of them.

I don't know about Judd. She doesn't live in Kentucky so she would certainly have to move to run for office. Mitch would probably attack her for being from Tennessee. The last polling I saw showed Mitch with dismal numbers. As always, it will depend on how the campaign in conducted. I'd love to see her get into the race. I certainly would love to see McConnell out of the Senate.

TommyCelt

(838 posts)
35. ???
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 01:45 PM
Mar 2013

What does "Don't kill American citizens without trial" have to do with Pearl Harbor? Oh yes, FDR just DETAINED Americian citizens without trial because of the ancenstry. Perfect sense...

TommyCelt

(838 posts)
4. I'm certainly no fan of RP
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:15 PM
Mar 2013

But let's be honest; if this crap had been pulled under the W administration...publicly stating the federal government has the power and legal protection to summarily execute American citizens on American soil without the benefit of due process, the clamoring for W's head on a pike from the liberal blogosphere would be deafening.

These are basic civil/consititutional rights that are being dismissed here.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. That is Rand Pauls' characterization of Holder's letter--and it is false.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:24 PM
Mar 2013

Holder nowhere asserted the authority to execute Americans on US soil in place of a trial.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
23. Details.. not too many pay attention to those pesky details that would
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 04:59 PM
Mar 2013

render Rand Paul a lying hypocrite.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
22. And, would rand paul be speaking out against the bush admin... or is
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 04:56 PM
Mar 2013

this all a show for his base?

TommyCelt

(838 posts)
24. I don't know what Paul's agenda is...
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:01 PM
Mar 2013

But I'm trying not to shoot the messenger, no matter who repugnant I find him.

The idea of drones being "legally" used against American citizens on American soil stinks - no matter from whose administration it comes.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
25. I do consider the source.. Rand Paul is a proven Lying sack
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:12 PM
Mar 2013

of shite. Did he even bother to read what AG Holder actually wrote?

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,415 posts)
31. I had lots of problems with GWB
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:06 AM
Mar 2013

and his so-called "war on terror" but going after AQ and eliminating them post-9/11 wasn't one of them. I don't want this sort of thing happening on American soil (if anybody is actually talking about this) but I'm all for tracking down terrorists all around the world and capturing/killing them before they strike us (or our allies for that matter).

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
7. I support the filibuster
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:17 PM
Mar 2013

I'm glad that Senator Paul is filibustering this nomination. Just because he's a Republican doesn't mean that he can't be right sometimes. I only wish we had some Democratic Senators on the floor with him.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
34. Eric Holder is a true Patriot, and want him for US Supreme Court.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:58 PM
Mar 2013

We need someone to finally replace Thurgood Marshall properly.
Because Thomas was a joke from the start. An insult to Marshall.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
9. If he doesn't get the media attention he is seeking, he'll be done in a few more hours max.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:19 PM
Mar 2013

He was hoping to get the support of other tea baggers in the Senate. So far, not takers. I the bad weather we are experiencing here in NOVA makes it up to DC, he'll be done in time for supper. These people have no principles and he will not stay there past the end of the normal day. But the media needs to cooperate and not give him a platform to air his bullcrap grievances.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
19. Critical Thinking
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 04:23 PM
Mar 2013

I don't think anyone should be banned for critical thinking. In fact, the world would be a whole lot better if there were more people who used critical thinking skills.

TommyCelt

(838 posts)
20. Quite right comrade
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 04:30 PM
Mar 2013

What's the point of moderating a democratic website if you can't ban dissenting opinions? I honestly don't know where some people get the nerve, trying to speak/write their mind....

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
21. Senator Wyden
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 04:55 PM
Mar 2013

Yeah, Senator Wyden is now on the floor. I called his office and I'm glad to see him. I don't agree with his vote on Brennan though.

ChangeUp106

(549 posts)
29. You can hate Rand Paul
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:22 PM
Mar 2013

And you can hate Republicans, but I've got no problem making a big issue out of the drone situation. Filibuster away. If this was Bush everyone here would be going nuts.

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