2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf the main Dem contenders for 2016 are Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren, who would you support?
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Elizabeth Warren | |
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14 (56%) |
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Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)No doubt about it.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)jehop61
(1,735 posts)We should give Sen. Warren time to get experience before passing judgement one way or another. She has much to learn before being ready to tackle the entire govt. She has much potential, but it's only been 4 weeks!
msongs
(67,421 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Hillary did not run during her first term as Senator.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Whomever is the nominee gets my support.
I would back Hillary because she can beat Jeb/Rubio or Jeb/Christie.
It takes a Clinton to defeat a Bush.
I am not positive Warren could beat Christie, and after what the Bush family did to Dukakis, who also was a big liberal from Mass. I do not think Warren would be able to easily defeat
Jeb Bush.
Warren or Hillary can beat all the other candidates with ease.(including Ryan,Rand,Santorium,
Huckabee,and whomever else there is.)
But it's Jeb/Rubio or Jeb/Christie that is the key and it takes Hillary Clinton to beat them.
(And again, Hillary would easily have beaten McCain in 2008.)
But it won't happen.
The two won't run against each other.
And I would rather in Jan.2017 have Hillary as President45, and Elizabeth Warren as head liberal in the senate pushing legislation through. That is a win/win.
IF for whatever reason Hillary did not run, Elizabeth Warren or Janet Napolitano would be my choice.
And as we now finally all agree age doesn't matter, maybe we can all dream that the VP would
be Jerry Brown. (for either candidate.) Wouldn't that be a fitting coda to his career?
MrYikes
(720 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)as we have had enough presidential dynasties
Beacool
(30,250 posts)She barely managed to win a Senate seat in one of the bluest states. I think that she will be a great senator, but trying to sell her at the national level is just a left wing fantasy.
Yavin4
(35,443 posts)Just replace Warren with Obama.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Warren had zip, zero, nada until she ran for the Senate.
cali
(114,904 posts)Not only did Obama serve 8 years in the Illinois Senate, but he had previously run for Congress. Not to mention that he had a much higher profile, national backing, powerful Congressional support and is possessed of far superior political skills.
Very different.
Rochester
(838 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)Grown2Hate
(2,013 posts)good in the Senate (and it doesn't hurt that the Clintons know how to campaign like a MOTHER fucker). I think President O will be filling the role that President William Jefferson Clinton did on the campaign trail for him as well.
Regardless, the eventual nominee gets my vote over any asshole Rethug.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I'm not even willing to consider someone until we know who's running. The start of the primary election is still 34 months away.
To those who have not voted, don't feel like you HAVE to make a choice now. That's the meme that's being pressed on DU.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)She's made zero noise about doing so.
RudynJack
(1,044 posts)has served in public office less than two months. She's fantastic on one particular issue, but she's a cipher on the rest. The notion that she should run for President, or could win, is fantasy.
I would wager she has less than 20% name recognition nationally.
And Massachusetts politicians haven't had a resounding record in presidential races since 1960. GHW Bush was born there, but ran from Texas. Before that, John Quincy Adams was the last Massachusetts President.
People love Warren because they can project anything they want on her - she doesn't have a record, she hasn't had to cast the tough votes.
I love Warren. I want her to have a very long successful career in the Senate. Beyond that? Let's see what she does over the next 12 years or so.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Sen Warren is wonderful but I believe Hillary has a much better chance of winning independents.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)I don't think she'll run, but I'd support her if she did.