2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHoly Crap!! Why is the tea party getting an opportunity to respond to the POTUS.
Can someone explain why? Are all the majors carrying the response? If so Im amazed that there is absolutely
no blow back by Dems.. Please someone explain..
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)I believe it was done on the Internet. Only CNN covered it live.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)RudynJack
(1,044 posts)Herman Cain did it last year.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)Hmmmm
go figure. I guess Batshit Bachmann is less forgettable.
RudynJack
(1,044 posts)It's hard forget Bachmann not knowing what camera to look into. It was classic.
oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)they did it last year also..
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Does one just have to claim theyre a political party? What are the rules on this.....If Cnn is covering, I would hope they get a ton of shit from us.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,437 posts)What do they stand for? What's their platform? They're been *around* since 2009 and I still don't know what they believe, what they want, etc. All I know is that they hate President Obama and basically have projected all of George W. Bush's mess on to him- and that they are a bunch of anarchists here to basically blow up government (and the GOP).
onehandle
(51,122 posts)it is.
sheshe2
(83,898 posts)Isn't it rich?
Are we a pair?
Me here at last on the ground,
You in mid-air..
Where are the clowns?
Isn't it bliss?
Don't you approve?
One who keeps tearing around,
One who can't move...
Where are the clowns?
Send in the clowns.
Just when I'd stopped opening doors,
Finally knowing the one that I wanted was yours.
Making my entrance again with my usual flair
Sure of my lines...
No one is there.
Don't you love farce?
My fault, I fear.
I thought that you'd want what I want...
Sorry, my dear!
And where are the clowns
Send in the clowns
Don't bother, they're here.
http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/j/judy_collins/send_in_the_clowns.html
Cha
(297,650 posts)country and what do we get from the opposition? An Enemy of the State with goPropaganda outlets catapulting the tragic Farce.
Just the right song for the teabag bunch, she!
At least the SOTU will be on Lincoln's birthday and that will give Pres Obama more power to shine.
Six years ago
.. Barack Obama announces his candidacy
Springfield, Illinois, February 10, 2007 Photo: Pete Souza
http://theobamadiary.com/
she~
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)brooklynite
(94,727 posts)The question is whether the networks will cover you. In the case of the Tea Party, they will because, as much as we like to belittle it, it remains a potent political force which influences Government decision, AND because it reflect an ongoing divide in the Republican Party that is newsworthy.
And, for what it's worth, have you forgotten that Michelle Bachmann gave a "Tea Party" response in 2011?
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)How about a clue on that....
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)were the only tv outlet to do so, not even FoxNews ran it. Because of the fact that these 'Tea Party' Republican responses have had only one TV airing in history so far, I think the 'here's a clue' was a bit harsh.
Apparently last year in an election cycle, it was not seen as newsworthy. Nor the year before that.....
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)...and had already crashed and burned as a Presidential candidate.
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)I bet it's the right answer...
First let me ask, who owns the Teabagger society? And who owns all the major media outlets?
One answer, the corporatists or plutocrats or oligarchs or whatever you want to call them, they own it all so they get to call these shots. It won't end until they think it's a waste.
timdog44
(1,388 posts)I've said it before in other threads, they are playing a game of Monopoly. Winner takes all. Everyone else is a loser. The game has to end somehow.
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)and I think it won't be ending on a happy note for a lot of us... It's the "system" that we can't shut down but have to in order to save ourselves.
Check this out...
I posted this earlier today because of the interview links, I'm reposting
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2342620
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,437 posts)TPTB spent vast sums of money to elect Mitt Romney and take the Senate but they lost........badly, mostly because of the teabaggers (in the case of the Senate).
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)you could say they lost in spite of their efforts because they were so cock sure of their ability to steal another election that it didn't matter who these clowns were so long as they were a warm body in a Congressional (and White House) seat with enough brains to hold a pen or press a "vote" button. All the policies are pre-written for them by the lobbyists so they really only had to show up. It wasn't hard to recruit people of that low a caliber to agree to run on the ticket because of the ownership of all the facilities they thought would pay off for them... and the perks that wold pad their pockets.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,437 posts)All he and the Koch Brothers and their legislative exchange organization (ALEC) needed was a compliant Congress to hammer out their "model legislation" and somebody allied with them them in the WH who had enough working digits to sign them into law. Of course, they vastly overestimated their ability to win in November- with a lackluster candidate for POTUS that nobody in the GOP *really* wanted and Senate candidates that didn't know how to keep their mouths shut about rape and women. In the end, despite all of the money they poured into the race, it wasn't even close.
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)I was thinking about the Norquist/Koch claims when I wrote the comment. And of course, Norquist whose original claim to fame was lobbying for tobacco corps and even now for the NRA (though notice he seems to be MIA on the airwaves right now). These individuals need to be squelched. I don't know exactly how to do that but I have some ideas.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,437 posts)I hate that people like him and ALEC command so much attention and influence in the political process and the average citizen so little of both.
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)like finding out the love of your life has been cheating on you in broad daylight with your best friend.
I don't know if you watch The Daily Show, I do online, but he had an interesting guest on last Thursday night who was involved in oversight of the bank bailout of 09 and he's written a book about it. His comments are astounding to say the least and make you realize that all the darkest imaginings you might have had about that whole debacle are really true. All I could think of afterward was, I knew it... so what do you do when the conspiracy theories are reality?
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-february-7-2013/exclusive---neil-barofsky-extended-interview-pt--1
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-february-7-2013/exclusive---neil-barofsky-extended-interview-pt--2
Sorry if it ruins your sleep but you should probably watch it at some point. Everybody needs to be awake for this.
Which reminds me of an old trucker joke; Leroy and Jethro get a job driving truck together as a team. All through the vetting process whenever Jethro was asked a question he'd say, "Well I'll just ask Leroy, he knows everything!" After a time the examiner was getting annoyed and so he got more complex in his questions and asked Jethro one more question; "So tell me, Jethro, if you were traveling down a steep mountain and the brakes weren't working and Leroy was sleeping in the bunk, what would you do then?" Jethro replied, "Well I'd have to wake up Leroy." The examiner asked him, "What for?" Jethro says, "Well I'd have to wake up Leroy cuz he ain't never seen a wreck like the one we're gonna have!"
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)cable backwaters. So if they have not covered it in the past, why do you think they will this time? And in the past, only once was a Tea Branch Republican aired on then only on one outlet. Last year no coverage. None. Election cycle and all. Cain was flavor of the month, and still, no coverage...
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I think the Green Party should have a chance to respond, too, if the Tea Party gets to.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)onenote
(42,759 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,319 posts)Every time Rand Paul speaks he shows what an idiot he is. If the Teabaggers want to say he represents them, all the better.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)spew lies! Thats way different..
Mr.Bill
(24,319 posts)He'll still look like an idiot.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Especially when idiots like Wolf Blitzgas gives political credibility to them
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)This, ladies and gentlemen, is the American Media's definition of neutrality and objective journalism--to give credibility to any extremist weirdo in the country and to act as if both sides of the story are equally correct.
robertkdem1965_h89
(25 posts)The more America sees what loons the TPers are, the better. That way, the Dems would definitely win the next elections.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)It illustrates the divide in the GOP. It will likely illustrate the ignorance and extremism of the TP. And there might be some hokey costumes and misspelled signs...
Anything that keeps the GOP civil war going helps us.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)split Republican votes. And that GOP Civil War is the one war I can support.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Some unhinged lunatic gets to bounce off the walls for ten minutes in front of a tv camera.
It should be the mainstream Republicans who are pissed off.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)This year there will just be well written lies!!!
Cha
(297,650 posts)but, never underestimate the power of their stupidity. We do know that the corporate media whores will treat it with the utmost respect
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)I think they are both going to spend most of their time explaining how Obama is going to be responsible for all the damage done by the Sequester.......A preemptive strike....This will give all the repubs in the house cover..At least theyll think it will. I hope Im wrong. I just dont like the idea of back to back coverage of these idiots and their lying bullshit!
Cha
(297,650 posts)you know Obama and Team know what they're going to do so maybe in the SOTU PBO will have some preemptive strikes himself?
mucifer
(23,565 posts)2naSalit
(86,775 posts)I don't suffer fools and liars gladly so are not not allowed on my computer screen.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)We could all use the laugh.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)sheshe2
(83,898 posts)Teamster Jeff
(1,598 posts)The RW droolers will all tune in
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)So there have been no ratings for it to be good for.....
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)Give them enough rope to hang themselves.
sakabatou
(42,174 posts)mac56
(17,574 posts)jazzimov
(1,456 posts)they just prove how stupid they are.
I'm sure that hard-core Tea Baggers - err, "Partiers" will fall for the red meat they are sure to spout, but it will make the rest of the country cringe.
As to "why", anyone can say anything they want, it's up to the media whether or not they cover it.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Beaverhausen
(24,472 posts)The more they are out there talking their crazy talk, the better.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Sequester. They will stay away from attacking each other and will be well funded for purchasing accomplished speech writers. They will practice not going off script....The bar is set very low thanks to their fiasco last year.. Listen, nobody more than me wants them to end up looking like complete idiots..Im just saying..
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)It will only hurt REPUBLICANS.
Shine the light on them.
budkin
(6,714 posts)Lisa D
(1,532 posts)and the tea party always delivers the crazy.
JHB
(37,161 posts)...oh, and they have well-connected billionaire-funded spin doctors calling all the right people.