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Related: About this forumPanetta Exposes Rift With Obama Over Arming Syrian Rebels
The Obama administrations two top defense officials publicly acknowledged a policy rift with the White House over whether to send U.S. arms to Syrian rebels.
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, who is retiring, and Army General Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, both said in congressional testimony yesterday that they supported a plan last year to provide weapons to the rebels fighting to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad.
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We did, said Dempsey, responding to McCains question on whether they supported the plan to arm Assads opponents by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and David Petraeus, who was director of the Central Intelligence Agency at the time.
That was our position, Panetta said to Graham. I do want to say, senator, that obviously there were a number of factors that were involved here that ultimately led to the presidents decision to make it non-lethal.
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leveymg
(36,418 posts)Note also that we would be at war with Iran right now, if those parties had their way.
I'll say it - if all this is true, we are indeed fortunate to have elected and re-elected Obama.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Whew!
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Best Secretary of State, ever!
Beacool
(30,250 posts)I doubt that we would be at war with Iran. Besides, if Iran were to attack Israel with nuclear weapons, Obama would aid Israel. Or do you think that he would allow Iran to start a nuclear war?
As for Syria, let's just hide our head in the sand and pretend that thousands of civilians are not being butchered by Assad.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)To add to the killing in the region.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)If Iran does manage to get nukes, I wouldn't be so sure that they wouldn't use them against the Israelis. If that were to happen, the US would have no choice but to get involved.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)monopoly on nuclear weapons, and why should we threaten war so they can keep it?
Seems that if this Administration were really interested in counter-proliferation, we would be applying pressure and sanctions on Israel to retire it's nuclear arsenal, or at least to make a serious no-first-use pledge. Israel won't even formally admit to it's own formidable nuclear arsenal that goes back to just before it preemptively launched the Six Day War in '67, having just completed its first couple of deliverable A-bombs constructed with plutonium looted from a US Navy facility in PA, stolen right under the nose of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission. Wink, wink. Nod, nod.
Unlike Israel, Iran hasn't started a war in modern history. Unlike Israel, Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons, but given the behavior of the US and Israel in recent times, it hardly seems irrational for them to try to obtain that deterrent capability.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)to do this. What made Obama ultimately decide against it, despite such overwhelming support for the plan? Smart man, glad he has enough self-confidence to make his own judgments.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Not a time to make waves. He is smart, no doubt about it, but so are the people mentioned above.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Obama is naturally reluctant to engineer to this extent in another country's war, considering that often doesn't go well. Hard to control weapons.
Beacool
(30,250 posts)It was Bill's greatest regret. When does it become a moral obligation to help when civilians are being slaughtered by the thousands? It's a fine line to walk.
dsc
(52,162 posts)I suspect it is the minute Obama decides to arm them and not one second before.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)that`s the last place the us needs to be involved in.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)... President Obama stood alone in opposition.
Good on him.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Which shows why people shouldn't get too upset over specific members being chosen - at the end, it's the President's call ... especially on national security.