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The Conservative Left
Obama is trying to seize conservatism from Republicans. Should they become the new reformers?
By William Saletan|Posted Wednesday, Jan. 23, 2013, at 1:19 PM ET
The reviews are in. Left and right agree: The hallmark of President Obamas second inaugural address was his push for a liberal agenda.
I disagree. I think the presidents speech will be remembered for its reframing of history. Obama isnt just trying to shape the future. Hes trying to reshape the past. Hes challenging the foundations of conservatism. And conservatives, in turn, must rethink what they stand for.
Obama infuriated the right with his invocations of the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and the Founding Fathers. But what made his account potent is that it didnt end there:
Through blood drawn by lash and blood drawn by sword, we learned that no union founded on the principles of liberty and equality could survive half-slave and half-free. We made ourselves anew, and vowed to move forward together. Together, we determined that a modern economy requires railroads and highways to speed travel and commerce, schools and colleges to train our workers. Together, we discovered that a free market only thrives when there are rules to ensure competition and fair play. Together, we resolved that a great nation must care for the vulnerable, and protect its people from lifes worst hazards and misfortune.
This is the key to Obamas story: History is progress, and progress is history. Ideas that were once progressiveregulation, entitlements, federal management of education and the economyare now rooted in our past. Theyre conservative.
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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2013/01/obama_s_inaugural_address_stonewall_seneca_falls_and_american_history_as.html
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)perpetuate the status quo.
PBO's agenda has been to insult and ignore the left while providing cover to the right's crimes.
Witness: Prosecuting OCCUPY, and Medical Marijuana facilities
Codifying Financial fraud, torture, illegal surveillance and illegal drone attacks.
By their acts shall ye know them.
CheapShotArtist
(333 posts)but what about him ending DADT, winding down the 2 wars, strengthening student grants and Affirmative Action, raising top tax rates, signing the Lily Ledbetter Act, and trying to pass the Jobs Act in summer 2011?
For someone trying to insult the left, I'm not feeling very insulted by Obama at all. And he even called out the Right for blocking important bills that he wanted to pass. How on Earth is that covering for their crimes?
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)ignore the real problems and issues facing us.
Income inequality,
Human initiated Climate change and its' associated environmental collapse,
The hijacking of governments' in service to the wealthy class,
The surrendering of National liberties to Corporate interests
(AKA the Wealthy or Monied Class)
We are asked to applaud symbolic acts and efforts (ending DADT, winding down the 2 wars (Why not end them and bring the troops home now?, strengthening student grants and Affirmative Action, raising top tax rates Slightly, signing the Lily Ledbetter Act, and trying to pass the Jobs Act in summer 2011? )
Where is the call for Universal Single Payer?
Full employment at a livable wage?
Government financed elections?
The end to the farce of Corporate Personhood?
The replacement of "Free trade deals" FAIR TRADE DEALS?
The criminal prosecution of:
Banksters/War Criminals/Environmental crimes/Eavesdropping on ALL OF US?
Leopolds Ghost
(12,875 posts)It is now more in common with the socially liberal business conservativism of Bismarck than the progressivism of Teddy Roosevelt.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,437 posts)The Republicans are moving so far rightward that they are very nearly at the point of falling off of it entirely. Of course, another way to look at it is that Democrats have become the "conservative party" as they want to conserve New Deal/Great Society programs like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. It's the Republicans whom have become the radicals in their zeal to tear down these programs and, indeed, shred the entire social safety net.
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)I misread your post. I thought it said "The Conservatives Left" meaning they'd all packed up and left America for good.
Well, I can keep hoping...
frazzled
(18,402 posts)or plying conservative ideas. He's saying that Obama, in his speech, was taking all the progressive policies that have occurred over the decadesfrom civil rights and the regulation of businesses to Social Security and Medicareand rooting them in the basic principles of the Founding Fathers: the territory that conservatives always used to claim as their own. And he's saying that conservatives are furious about this because he's reinterpreted their precious fairy tale about the intentions of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution and the writings of the founding fathers.
Read it again: he's saying that Obama is reclaiming progressive ideals for the mainstream of American history, and taking that mainstream away from conservatives. Don't be confused by this sentence: "Ideas that were once progressiveregulation, entitlements, federal management of education and the economyare now rooted in our past. Theyre conservative." By conservative here, he is meaning merely that they are rooted in the past, and thus established; that they are nothing dreamed up or far away from the intentions of the founders.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)Thanks for reading the entire post/article.