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babylonsister

(171,075 posts)
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 04:06 PM Apr 2012

Holy mackeral! Pollster Finds Obama is Overwhelming Favorite

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/04/03/pollster_finds_obama_is_overwhelming_favorite.html

Pollster Finds Obama is Overwhelming Favorite

An Ipsos forecasting model finds that if President Obama's approval rating stays at 47%, there is an 85% chance he wins reelection, Paul Bedard reports.

Should Obama's approval rise to 50% or better, he stands a 99% chance of winning.

Said pollster Clifford Young: "Obama is the odds-on favorite barring some unforeseen random event. As such, we really should not be asking who will win the presidency but instead who will hold the House and Senate and will Obama be able to govern?"
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Holy mackeral! Pollster Finds Obama is Overwhelming Favorite (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2012 OP
This election is plenty winnable Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2012 #1
The election is winnable not won. LetTimmySmoke Apr 2012 #9
Shhhhhhh. aquart Apr 2012 #2
+1 Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2012 #4
We can't afford to dismiss the "anybody but Obama" voters who will be fueled gateley Apr 2012 #6
There is a very real chance that the GOP could steal 2012 as they did in 2000 Vincardog Apr 2012 #3
And with all the new voting id requirements in place -- might be a lot easier than gateley Apr 2012 #7
They stole Ohio and the election in 04 Gman Apr 2012 #15
99%... lame54 Apr 2012 #5
"Should Obama's approval rise to 50% or better" ... zbdent Apr 2012 #8
This is great but if we don't take the house ans senate it movonne Apr 2012 #10
WInning the election will be easy. Winning the vote-counting, less so. DFW Apr 2012 #11
The House and Senate should be our main concern progressoid Apr 2012 #12
Its the "unforeseen random event" that Im worried about. DCBob Apr 2012 #13
Just stop it. The Stranger Apr 2012 #14
Am sure the republicans don't give a real damn about the president slot. They want both southernyankeebelle Apr 2012 #16
We need to ignore that poll and work this election like we're 2 points behind LynneSin Apr 2012 #17
The election is far from won fujiyama Apr 2012 #18
Then the GOP will Turbineguy Apr 2012 #19
Senate & House too. ffr Apr 2012 #20
Go to Intrade and you will see Obama is the leader 321Morrow Apr 2012 #21
Now that Mitt has the GOP sewn up DonCoquixote Apr 2012 #22
Unfortunately, I think you're right crazylikafox Apr 2012 #23

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,416 posts)
1. This election is plenty winnable
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 04:08 PM
Apr 2012

provided that we get our people out to the polls (and they can actually cast a vote for him). I have sincere doubts that people will want to "take a chance" on Mitt Romney- not even some Republicans are willing to after all. Like the article, I think that the second question, however, is of profound importance. After all, retaining President Obama with a VERY hostile Republican Congress is going to ensure that very little gets done during a second Obama Presidency. The right-wing, smarting from yet another loss to the Kenyan Socialist gun grabber, will be completely unhinged and demand no less than his immediate impeachment from office- and, sadly, I expect that the Republicans will do everything in their power to make a second Obama Presidency a thoroughly miserable affair. Hopefully, people will choose better, however, given everything that has gone on during the past 3+ years.

 

LetTimmySmoke

(1,202 posts)
9. The election is winnable not won.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 04:37 PM
Apr 2012

There can still be things like manufactured crises or Bain Capital buying out Diebold.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,416 posts)
4. +1
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 04:13 PM
Apr 2012

We don't want to become complacent. I doubt that it will be seriously close, particularly after the debates, but we don't want to pull a Bart Simpson losing to Martin Prince.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
6. We can't afford to dismiss the "anybody but Obama" voters who will be fueled
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 04:15 PM
Apr 2012

by their hate, fear and racism (very powerful fuel!). Good advice.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
15. They stole Ohio and the election in 04
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 06:20 PM
Apr 2012

The closer an election, the more likely the chance of it being stolen from us.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
8. "Should Obama's approval rise to 50% or better" ...
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 04:28 PM
Apr 2012

yeah, right ... with today's "liberally-biased media"?

The "lbm" has been happy to cover the "infighting" ... once they've been given the OK, it will be full-on attack mode on Obama ...

You know, the controversial Republican attack ads which either never aired or only aired once ... and were played hundreds of times on the "news" portions of the "LBM", giving them far more coverage than they would have gotten if the Repug paid for the advertising ...

DFW

(54,415 posts)
11. WInning the election will be easy. Winning the vote-counting, less so.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 05:37 PM
Apr 2012

Like Bush's buddy said on election day, 2004: "It's all over but the counting, and we'll take care of the counting."

Obama will have a majority of the votes in his favor.

His Republican opponent will have criminal voter disenfranchisement, Republican-programmed vote counting machines, paid thugs to harass voters in Democratic wards, robo-call machines to mislead Democratic voters about when and where they can vote, and Fox Noise blaring 24/7 up to the election with a billion dollars' worth of free advertising, telling any lie they can think of about Obama, and in favor of the Republican candidate.

This is not England. This is not Canada. Just having received more votes than your opponent is no longer a sure-fire way to win an election in our country. The Republicans have seen how it worked in Zimbabwe and Iran, and they see Mugabe and AhmadiNejad still in power. they remember what worked in 2000, 2002, 2004 and 2010. Nothing succeeds like success, after all.

progressoid

(49,992 posts)
12. The House and Senate should be our main concern
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 05:46 PM
Apr 2012

I doubt the President will lose. Our vulnerabilities in Congress are many and the DNC needs to concentrate on those races.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
13. Its the "unforeseen random event" that Im worried about.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 06:14 PM
Apr 2012

The GOPers are clearly capable of creating such events.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
16. Am sure the republicans don't give a real damn about the president slot. They want both
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 06:37 PM
Apr 2012

houses. Because that is where the most damage can be done. People need to vote democrat even in the states. Republicans have gone crazy. They just aren't normal.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
17. We need to ignore that poll and work this election like we're 2 points behind
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 06:58 PM
Apr 2012

Yes this is our election to lose. If we get too cocky ahead of time and slack off we could find ourselves with a President Romney.

other than that this is really great news. But how can the GOP ever think of getting close to 50% if they ignore women, minorities and GLBT?

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
18. The election is far from won
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 09:55 PM
Apr 2012

Rising gas prices, potential foreign conflicts and instability, unlimited $ in the form of unhinged Super PACs, and a general pessimism make this election a challenge. Obama is a great campaigner and has a good organization behind him. It also doesn't hurt that republicans are basically blowing their foot off by turning off almost every group other than white males (and for whatever reason it's not just wealthy white males).

It will be very important to get the word out on what the republicans' ultimate goals are - at least for moderates and those frustrated with how things are going but still interested in electing people with potential solutions. The republicans have proven they have no interest in working with Obama on anything. They don't want to accomplish anything and their ideas are the same re-hashed garbage they've had going on for years - that does nothing to make people's lives better or solve the debt crisis.

321Morrow

(37 posts)
21. Go to Intrade and you will see Obama is the leader
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 02:17 AM
Apr 2012

and favorite for the general election.

www.intrade.com

Intrade is far more accurate than most polls.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
22. Now that Mitt has the GOP sewn up
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 06:41 AM
Apr 2012

Out will come the Citizens united billionaires that frankly, do not have to even care what mitt wants. Beware, this fight is not even begun.

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