If ACA is thrown out altogether, what will it mean for November?

[Kennah]

Will the American people give in to the Rabid Reich?

Will the People's Wrath be felt in their votes?

Something else?

Given the parade of crazy in the GOP primary, it seems that Obama's re-election campaign should be smiling larger than a cat of Alice' acquaintance. However, if ACA is tossed that has to be one god awful ugly nightmare scenario for them.

I try to content myself that it will cause the People to rise up and say enough of this shit, Single Payer For All, Now. But that does not really seem likely.

An Obama win, a gain in the Senate, perhaps retake the House, but not an overwhelming Progressive majority in the legislature.

[jberryhill]

1. If the caterpillars are woolly in June, then November will be cold

That's about the only reliable early predictor I know.

[great white snark]

2. It would mean no congressional movement on single pay this Nov and for many, many more Novs.

Hopefully only the mandate will be stricken.

[unblock]

3. much rabble will be roused, no doubt.

come to think of it, does anyone do anything to a rabble OTHER than rouse it?
does anyone ever say, hey, look! over there! a rabble! let's go over there and, say, rattle it?
now that sounds more fitting, doesn't it? a "rabble-rattler" sounds more poetic than a "rabble-rouser".
and yet, rabbles are roused, but never rattled.
cages can be rattled; some snakes can be rattled. but never rabbles.
for that matter, why aren't rabbles ever left alone?
can't anyone just say, yeah, i noticed that rabble over there.
sure wanted to rouse it, but i thought i'd just let this one go.
or maybe it will turn into a mob and then i can unrule it.

[Drunken Irishman]

4. It means we'll probably have to wait another 100 years for reform.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

5. A whole bunch of twenty somethings

will get to find out how much fun it is to shop for

health insurance and their pissed off parents will

get to help.

[MannyGoldstein]

8. But maybe the 65-67 year olds who

Obama wants to take off of Medicare to pay for RomneyObamaCare won't have to have that fun.

[annabanana]

12. +1 to THAT... It's a whole bunch of people who'll get thrown off the rolls.

Very angry

[underpants]

6. MSM is trying to end the re-election by Supreme Court proxy

[KharmaTrain]

7. One Note In A Lot Of Noise...

In 2010 the ACA was a big issue for the teabaggers as the 14 month "debate" that led to its passage was so heavily promoted and contentious. The vote was localized in Congressional districts across the country and the rabid nature of the "debate" turned off a lot of people; esepcially Democrats. The teabaggers were able to focus on the issue and energize their "base" that made the difference in a lot of close races that inturn led to the Democrats losing the House...but that was then, this is now.

The economy has and will continue to be the major issue in this campaign and no one can predict where it will turn. One thing one can predict is that what is an important issue today will be long forgotten in six long months...compounded with many other issues and punctuated by personalities of the candidates. If unemployment shoots to 10% and gas to $6 a gallon no doubt its going to hurt President Obama no matter what else he campaigns on or promises...while if it moves in the other direction it will help him.

One other wild card...and no one can or should predict this...and that's how many voters the rushpublicans have alienated and how this will help Democrats. If Millard is the nominee will he continue to attack Planned Parenthood and piss off women or "modify" his stance on immigration so he can pretend he's a "friend" to Hispanic...in short, will he "Etch-A-Sketch" from the highly offensive and regressive "platform" he's campaigning on now? There's a long way to go to November and plenty of twists and turns that will come into play.

I won't even predict on the future of ACA as the SCOTUS can rule the mandate unconstitutional and the rest remains in place or gut the thing entirely...and just as people's opinions about the current bill are mixed, I expect the same to be on a SCOTUS ruling...especially if its 5-4. If it's just the mandate that's scrapped and the Democrats retake the House and hold the Senate, we could see a quick fix that would keep most of the legislation in place. If it's totally gutted, I don't see anyone going near this issue for a looooooooong time.

[DCBob]

9. Probably forgotten by November.

Which in some ways is a benefit to the President. Bashing Obamacare has been major talking point for the GOP.

[customerserviceguy]

10. Yes, but won't that help Romney with GOP'ers?

They will no longer have to trust him with that Etch-a-Sketch on what is a central issue for them. Frankly, I can see Mittens using whatever decision comes out to his advantage.

It will either be, "See, you don't have to worry about how I find Romneycare different from Obamacare any more," or, "I'm the only shot you have at getting rid of Obamacare, so you're stuck with believing me this time around."

Frankly, there are provisions that have gone in effect which have broad public support, including the ban on exclusions for pre-existing conditions. I'm not sure that coverage for children up to the age of 26 is going to survive, though. I see a fair amount of pressure on the GOP to come up with something (albeit much milder) to replace the ACA if it's either gutted or tossed out entirely.

[DCBob]

11. Yes, thats probably true.

It takes a Santorum talking point away.

[customerserviceguy]

13. Santorum's lost a lot more than talking points

He's losing his marbles, too.

If he had simply answered culture war questions with a simple, "I believe in my faith, and you can all look up what my church teaches, but I'm not here to discuss contraception, masturbation, pornography, etc, I'm going to stick to the economy," he would have done better in Michigan, Ohio, and Illinois. If he had won those states, even by just a little bit, he'd have Romney completely on the run by now.

Fool shot himself in both feet and his pecker, too.

[DCBob]

14. Ricky had a chance to win this thing but clearly he blew it by being too "Santorum".

I had no idea he was such an extreme hard core religious conservative... so hard core he couldnt help but say all that crazy shit that derailed him. Even so, had Noot dropped out early on Santorum might still have had a chance.

[customerserviceguy]

16. All I can say this far out after January

is that Romney's people played them both quite well. I have no doubt they think they can do it with the President, too.

[high density]

15. Maybe by that time people will see the real benefits of it eroding away

And they will realize that it wasn't all about death panels and killing grandma... But then again, I guess I'm being optimistic here. I'm sure the right-wing will somehow spin that as something else to blame the Democrats for.

[Whisp]

17. the coup d'etat will be official then.

[jillan]

18. Maybe I'm crazy but if they do that, I think it is a slippery slope.

Are they setting precedent for every time a President does something that the opposition thinks is unconstitutional, it can be taken to the Supreme Court?

Is this where this country is really going to go?
And if so - dangit - we could've used this when Bush was in office!


I wonder if Alito and Scalia and the other wackos are thinking about that.