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Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:58 AM Nov 2016

I have analyzed all the posts on this forum and it all boils down to this

Their people voted.
Ours didn't.

They had a candidate their voters were excited about.
Ours not so much.

Everything else is a lot of hot air and speculation.

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I have analyzed all the posts on this forum and it all boils down to this (Original Post) Jersey Devil Nov 2016 OP
Fair enough Lotusflower70 Nov 2016 #1
We had 2 million more votes dhol82 Nov 2016 #2
Well, sure, in NY and Calif they were excited Jersey Devil Nov 2016 #3
False promises of jobs in the rust belt. dhol82 Nov 2016 #5
Obama received over 65.9 million votes in 2012. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #6
Clinton is at 64.9 million and counting TwilightZone Nov 2016 #7
Ah! Thanks! That's what I get for trusting Politico's numbers. n/t Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #10
Yeah, I don't think they've updated them since the morning after the election. TwilightZone Nov 2016 #11
Thank you. anamandujano Nov 2016 #12
I agree Txbluedog Nov 2016 #4
Their candidate listened zipplewrath Nov 2016 #8
Middle-class whites voted as if the Bush Recession didn't effect anyone else baldguy Nov 2016 #9

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
6. Obama received over 65.9 million votes in 2012.
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:20 PM
Nov 2016

Clinton's total is about 62.5 million (a loss of about 3.4 million compared to Obama).

Trump's total is about 61.2 million (a gain of about 0.3 million compared to Romney).

Many people weren't excited about Hillary. I was one of the people who voted for Obama in the 2008 primary and breathed a big sigh of relief that he beat her for the Democratic nomination!

I still voted for Hillary (and all Democrats) in the recent election, but her "baggage" (deserved or not) concerned me. She'd been a conservative propagandist punching bag for years, plus I knew that she'd have NAFTA and previous gun restrictions attached to her thanks to Bill... not to mention his infidelities.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
7. Clinton is at 64.9 million and counting
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:53 PM
Nov 2016
http://cookpolitical.com/story/10174

She's likely going to finish relatively close to Obama's 2012 total. The massive decline in turnout many are claiming simply isn't reality.
 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
4. I agree
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:09 PM
Nov 2016

Yes we won the popular vote but it was never about the popular vote and we knew that going in. We just did not have enough people showing up in the right places like Philly, Detroit etc.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
8. Their candidate listened
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:57 PM
Nov 2016

Ours didn't.

This blue collar/NAFTA blow back has been building for years. Too many donors/DNC/DCCC/DSCC types just didn't hear it, much less listen. I've been waiting for a GOP candidate to figure it out. I just didn't think it'd be a knuckle head like Trump.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
9. Middle-class whites voted as if the Bush Recession didn't effect anyone else
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:58 PM
Nov 2016

Last edited Thu Dec 1, 2016, 12:31 AM - Edit history (1)

And Trump was effective in nurturing their fear & racism.

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