2016 Postmortem

Garrett78

(10,721 posts) Sat Nov 26, 2016, 04:09 PM Nov 2016

In case some are under the impression Clinton did worse than expected among white voters:

GWB got 55% of the white vote in 2000 and 58% in 2004. McCain got 55% of the white vote in 2008. Romney got 59% of the white vote in 2012. Trump, according to exit polls, got 57% of the white vote in 2016.

Folks can argue all they want about whether the Democrats need to significantly alter their message (vs. doing a better job of turning more people out to vote and combating voter suppression vs. a variety of other strategies), but blaming an individual candidate is just silly. Because the white vote has held pretty darn steady for a long time now. In fact, no Democratic candidate for president has won the white vote since LBJ.

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In case some are under the impression Clinton did worse than expected among white voters: (Original Post) Garrett78 Nov 2016 OP

no Democratic candidate for president has won the white vote since LBJ. JI7 Nov 2016 #1

Yes...But Don't You Realize What A Terrible Candiddate She Was Me. Nov 2016 #2

Yep...just like Obama, Kerry, Gore, etc. Garrett78 Nov 2016 #3

As white people, this is on us. yardwork Nov 2016 #4

There's something up... no doubt... exit polls being this off like this... no doubt uponit7771 Nov 2016 #5

I'm not sure what you mean. Garrett78 Nov 2016 #6

JI7

(89,250 posts)

1. no Democratic candidate for president has won the white vote since LBJ.

Reply to Garrett78 (Original post)

Sat Nov 26, 2016, 04:14 PM

Nov 2016

Which LBJ said would happen and we know why.

But so much resistance to facing this truth.

Me.

(35,454 posts)

2. Yes...But Don't You Realize What A Terrible Candiddate She Was

Reply to Garrett78 (Original post)

Sat Nov 26, 2016, 05:28 PM

Nov 2016

Didn't connect, didn't feel their pain, only interested in her identity and so on and so forth.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)

3. Yep...just like Obama, Kerry, Gore, etc.

Reply to Me. (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 26, 2016, 08:09 PM

Nov 2016

And I'm yet to see an explanation as to why Portman kicked Strickland's ass if trade (and the TPP specifically) was such an important issue in Ohio.

Sorry, folks, but voter preferences are much more of a cultural/social matter than an economic one. Trump supporters weren't drawn to Trump for his (non)nuanced position on trade or taxes. People sold by comments such as "We're looking at jobs--big league jobs" weren't going to vote for Clinton no matter what.

yardwork

(61,622 posts)

4. As white people, this is on us.

Reply to Garrett78 (Original post)

Sat Nov 26, 2016, 08:11 PM

Nov 2016

uponit7771

(90,344 posts)

5. There's something up... no doubt... exit polls being this off like this... no doubt

Reply to Garrett78 (Original post)

Sat Nov 26, 2016, 09:21 PM

Nov 2016

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)

6. I'm not sure what you mean.

Reply to uponit7771 (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 26, 2016, 09:40 PM

Nov 2016

I don't know that the exit polls are off. They're pretty much in line with previous elections.

Do away with voter suppression alone and I bet we're looking at a President-elect Clinton. The Shelby County v. Holder decision of 2013 was devastating.

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