We need a charismatic candidate for 2020

[MoonRiver]

The only person I can think of right now is Martin O'Malley. Any other ideas?

[femmocrat]

1. Too soon.

We aren't done grieving yet.

[MoonRiver]

4. True, sadly. But we have to go there at some point.

I'm very much hoping another Obama appears.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

2. There is a serious problem I include the short term. Martin O'Malley may help, but not much,

Somebody needs to be all Teddy Roosevelt over Trump's friends being the only Americans worthy of greatness.

He's gonna screw everybody but them.

[hamsterjill]

3. No suggestions yet for 2020, but an opinion, if you will

We need someone who will get down in the trenches with the Republicans. A fighter. Someone who does what Elizabeth Warren does. I'm tired of the Democratic party looking "weak" when it stands toe to toe with the Republican monsters. Yes, the Republicans get nasty, and we certainly need to go high when they go low. But there is a fine line between that and having voters think you're wimpy, too.

I want a fighter for 2020.

[TxVietVet]

5. We need to find out what happened and how to fix this mess FIRST.

Many Americans are SICK over this election. Someone needs to take over the Democratic Party leadership and get the business of the party in order. BTW, A FULL TIME PARTY CHAIR. It seems to work for the conservanuts. tRump is going to be a disaster. That's a given.

Right now, we need a plan to take back the House and Senate in the next 2 years.

NO ONE SEEMS TO BE TALKING ABOUT THESE ISSUES.

Anyone awake out there?

[TrekLuver]

8. Trashpot's "disaster" will be our gain.

[duffyduff]

11. Ask Jeff Zucker of CNN what happened.

He is solely to blame for this disaster.

[Ken Burch]

71. You're right about that. n/t.

[Bucky]

83. I'm calling for a ban on all candidates until we can find out what the hell is going on.

Sorry, too soon?

[flamingdem]

6. I don't think O'Malley has charisma at all, I hardly noticed him

On the other hand Elizabeth Warren can light up a room, and a country.

[MoonRiver]

7. I agree about Elizabeth, she rocks. But I do believe we need somebody under 60.

Liz will be close to 70, and maybe still not interested in running, in 2020. Let's look for other, progressive, and younger candidates. JMHO.

[woodsprite]

12. Maybe we could pick a younger Presidential candidate and have Liz be the VP mentor

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Like Obama / Biden. Those two were a great match-up. Although Warren is great in the Senate.

Whatever we have in mind for 2020 has to take a back seat for awhile. We have to flip Congress in 2018 and keep it in 2020 inorder to give any Dem President a fighting chance to fix the problems that Trump & Co. will create.

[MoonRiver]

14. I completely agree. eom

[FrenchieCat]

59. I agree....

[OKNancy]

9. 2018 first. It would be so wonderful to overturn the Repub. majority

Then Trump could do nothing.

( but if you ask me... Kamala Harris. )

[FrenchieCat]

60. True dat....need to deal with 2018 first, but....

I'll take Gavin Newsom.

[OKNancy]

61. he's cool too

No comment on how good looking he is.. that wouldn't be right. ( lol)

[FrenchieCat]

69. ....

[ancianita]

75. Me, too. With Warren as running mate. Or Kamala Harris.

[Grey Lemercier]

105. Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris cant run on same ticket. They both are CA

[FrenchieCat]

106. Can't do Kamala....cause they are both from the same state....

Warren would be great though!

[duffyduff]

10. More HRC bashing.

What you are really saying is we need a demagogue.

Trump has all of the "charisma" of a doorknob. Don't confuse demagoguery with charisma.

I like O'Malley, but he stammers in debates. He can't help it, but it would hurt him.

[MoonRiver]

13. That is absolutely NOT what I am saying.

I want another Obama to defeat the forces of evil. I don't know of anyone, right now, who can really pull that off. Just asking for suggestions.

[LisaM]

102. But Obama's voters who weren't from the base vanished as soon as the election was over.

They couldn't give him the tools he needed in 2010.

We need to get the Voting Rights Act back, and do what the Tea Party did - because it was the Tea Party that started at the bottom - and wrest more local control.

[NCTraveler]

19. Nothing about O'Malley can be described as a "demagogue".

[Warren DeMontague]

113. "HRC bashing".. okay, run her again then.

if every conversation here about the past OR the future is gonna boil down to Hillary and the universe's singular unfairness to that one individual, run her again in 2020.

Why not.

[scheming daemons]

15. Martin O'Malley may be one of the LEAST charismatic prominent Democrats in the country.

Tell me this OP is satire.

[MoonRiver]

16. Not satire. I did like O'Malley, but am asking for the names of others who could win.

[NCTraveler]

17. I like your suggestion.

I'm excited to see how the bench fills out for us moving forward.

[geek tragedy]

18. Cory Booker. nt

[kenfrequed]

38. No. No. No.

The last thing we need is another corporate Democrat. So absolutely No!

[Fast Walker 52]

41. is he really that corporate?

He seemed like a good guy when I've seen him on TV

[geek tragedy]

44. voters don't care about 'corporate' democrats, they care about someone who's inspiring

and to whom they can relate.

Chuck Schumer is wildly popular in New York state, including areas where Hillary lost big. Despite being the quintessential corporate Democrat.

[kenfrequed]

46. The base does

Progressives and the base both do. Turn out problems this time were not merely a function of charisma. I have absolutely no idea why someone would front-load one of the friendliest democrats to corporations as a good candidate. I mean, do you work for a lobbying firm or something?

Seriously.

One of the lessons we have to learn from this is that the lobbyist establishment is NOT where we should be looking for candidates.

[geek tragedy]

47. How do you explain Chuck Schumer winning upstate New York but Russ Feingold losing Wisconsin?

"corporate Dem" is not a thing in the real world where general elections happen

Hillary was less corporate than Obama, and he's a lot more popular.

[kenfrequed]

49. Really??

Is that a serious question?

A: Schumer is an incumbent. Look at the stats for how often incumbents get reelected and how hard primary challenges can be. Congress has an 11% approval rating and a 93+% retention rating. So that gets disqualified immediately.

B: Corporate Democrat is a thing. I understand how people that like corporate democrats don't like this to be pointed out, but many of us are tired of watered down legislation being further weakened to sate the lusts of the donors. There are actually some good studies indicating that public support for legislation is far less important than monied support in terms of getting things done. The only way to change that is to put people in that will fight against the interests of massive lobbying organizations.

(B-2 No doubt your next argument will be something like "but not all lobbyists are bad" maybe you can hashtag it or something to try to win support #notalllobbyists)

C: Hillary tried to take money from republican donors. Period.

[bettyellen]

98. Bernie was courting Repblicans too! But I guess the penis give him a license to....

Funny how it always works that way.

[kenfrequed]

118. Really?

Which big oil or financial interests that usually donate to Republicans was Bernie courting?

Which neo cons was he trying to talk into throwing support to his campaign?

Cite something.

[kenfrequed]

120. Oh.... and also

Negroponte and Kissinger.

Because going after the support warmongers and neocons is totally what feminism is all about.

[marybourg]

39. Charisma on steroids! nt.

[Fast Walker 52]

42. for sure

[FrenchieCat]

63. I disagree.....

But that's just me. Not my taste. Tries too hard for me.

[Bucky]

81. Booker will be running. First he'll need to get married, get that JFK vibe going.

I don't want JFK. I want Bobby. I want Elizabeth Warren.

[geek tragedy]

90. he'll certainly have his personal life put under the microscope, if he's ready for it

if he's smart, he'll take the cultural resentment, urban/rural, wwc/poc divide head on. He could do quite well by going after some sacred cows of the cultural left--political correctness, privilege shaming, identity politics, general sanctimony/scolding from bourgeois urban white people towards wwc voters. Then talk about the need for respect for everybody, going both ways, and the right of everyone to speak their mind, even if we don't agree, and how we all need to stick together rather than dividing ourselves from each other, even if we don't agree.

Middle ground between the almost naïve unity theme of Obama and the bleak, bitter rhetoric of Trump.

Lots of white voters who feel alienated from our party would really respond well to that.

[Grey Lemercier]

107. you will have a mass walkout of the left wing, Booker is a banker enabler from hell

Cory Booker: the inexorable rise of Newark's neoliberal egomaniac

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jun/11/cory-booker-newark-neoliberal-egomaniac

Eyeing the Senate, the New Jersey mayor turns self-promotion into an art form. His corporate-friendly policies are not so pretty

n 2002, a now defunct magazine called Shout NY put a minor New Jersey politician on its cover, under the headline: "Will Cory Booker Be the First Black President of the United States?" Even back then, the man was in a hurry to make it to the top. But with the death last week of Senator Frank Lautenberg, and the (very expensive) shotgun October special election called by Governor Chris Christie, the mayor of Newark, New Jersey may find himself in Washington, DC a full year earlier than he'd expected.


Cory Booker, the hedge fund guys' favorite politician and the most self-regarding official in America, is more likely than not headed to the US Senate – and I can't imagine he's dismayed at the accelerated schedule. He may be esteemed by Wall Street tycoons and Hollywood titans, and worshipped by an unserious internet brigade that prefers its politics in GIF form, but Booker has not had a good run of it lately in New Jersey's benighted largest city. Carjackings – the signature Newark crime; they used to call it "the carjack capital" – have gone up for four years in a row. Violent crime, which had been declining in Booker's first years, has spiked again; in summer, things will get worse. Police have been laid off, firefighters too, as Booker has slashed city budgets. And when the mayor recently tried to get an ally of his on the city council, the meeting devolved into a ruckus, with police officers resorting to pepper spray.

Except for a stinging New York Times report last year, one doesn't hear much about the actual conditions of life in Newark – a city that, to what I suppose is Booker's credit, has made conditions friendlier for companies such as Panasonic (enticed with a $100m tax break) and the Manischewitz kosher wine firm. But oh, one hears an awful lot about Booker. All politicians are to some degree wannabe celebrities, but it has been a while since we have met a showman as narcissistic as him: a man who makes Chuck Schumer look camera-shy, who makes Michele Bachmann seem like a subtle media operator.

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[McCamy Taylor]

20. Oprah.

Not kidding.

[Auggie]

35. Michael Moore suggested Oprah on Morning Joe

[yallerdawg]

57. A filthy rich celebrity or media darling with no real political record?

"Are we there yet?"

I think so.

[Fast Walker 52]

43. npot a bad option, but does she want to?

[longship]

92. Oprah is an anti-science kook.

She supports all sorts of scams and shams on her program.

Including the Brazilian fake psychic surgery faith healing wacko, John of God.
Dr. Oz, who has shamed his Columbia University medical school with his wacko alt-med claims.
Dr. Phil -- "I was the worst marriage counselor on the planet". What does he do on Oprah? Fucking marriage counseling!
Plus, then there's her anti-vaccination stance, which is a big deal killer for me.

Please! Not fucking Oprah. Might as well have Drumpf. Actually, we now fucking do have Drumpf.

Why would anybody want to repeat that mistake?

[Qutzupalotl]

21. Gavin Newsom.

Lt. Gov of CA, soon to be gov in 2018, hopefully. Very good speaker, good on the issues, no scandals thus far.

[MyNameIsKhan]

27. too much baggage for a democrat... but for trump who cares.

[Qutzupalotl]

30. What baggage?

[MyNameIsKhan]

32. Affair with Deputy chief of staff wife.. alcohal abuse...

[Qutzupalotl]

45. Trump, Newt and Rudy have 9 wives between them.

And not a hint of remorse. At least our guy got help.

[MyNameIsKhan]

48. I know but the rules for democrats are different in eyes of media.

[FrenchieCat]

58. Not necessarily....

I think they would be called on that Hypocrisy! It's not like they ever ever discussed Tramp's affairs; they didn't! So I don't buy your theory!

[FrenchieCat]

56. He married the Wife....so that's not an issue...

NOT in the age of Trump!

[Va Lefty]

33. I think this is what Khan is referring too

"In December 2001, Newsom married Kimberly Guilfoyle, a former San Francisco prosecutor and legal commentator for Court TV, CNN, and MSNBC and who is now a prominent personality on Fox News Channel."

"In January 2005, they jointly filed for divorce, citing "difficulties due to their careers on opposite coasts."

"In January 2007, it was revealed that Newsom had a romantic relationship in mid-2005 with Ruby Rippey-Tourk, the wife of his former deputy chief of staff and then campaign manager, Alex Tourk.[85] Tourk filed for divorce shortly after the revelation and left Newsom's campaign and administration. Newsom's affair with Rippey-Tourk impacted his popularity with male voters, who viewed his indiscretions as a betrayal of a close friend and ally."

Newsom announced in February 2007 that he would seek treatment for alcohol abuse."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Newsom

[Va Lefty]

31. Agree

[FrenchieCat]

65. Oh..he has scandals..

But in the age of Trump, we really should not give a damn!

[Green Line]

22. Joseph Kennedy 111

Young, will be 40 in 2020. Served in the Peace Corps in the Dominican, speaks fluent spanish, went to Harvard, Bobby's grandson. Liz Warren was one of his professors.

[northoftheborder]

101. This suggestion is appealing to me. #22 Joseph Kennedy the 3rd

[phallon]

23. Gavin Newsom 2020. Castro for VP

Best hope, the West.

[applegrove]

26. 100

[FrenchieCat]

70. I like that!

[GeorgeGist]

24. Gavin Newsome.

[0rganism]

25. we don't need a boilerplate "charismatic candidate", we need a superstar who's not afraid to lose

stop thinking about O'Malley and Sanders, running them would have made sense 16 years ago. not anymore.
the Democratic candidate in 2020 will likely be running against a populist incumbent celebrity billionaire with at least one shooting war going on and the unwavering support of nazi America. s/he'll need to be someone rich, famous, remarkable, knows what losing is like, knows how to care about others and show s/he cares, able to win in the face of desperate odds.

LeBron James is the only one i can think of right now. maybe someone else will arise in the next couple years, but that's the only one i could see pulling it off now. anyone else is a sacrifice at the altar of Trump's second term.

overall i agree with the "too soon" sentiments. we need to think about saving senate seats in 2018.

[Auggie]

36. Agree with the "not afraid to lose" part

That was one of the mistakes the Clinton campaign made. Not Hillary, her advisors.

[tblue37]

67. The Rock wants to run in 2020, you know. Maybe he can wrest the nomination from Kanye. nt

[SammyWinstonJack]

96. Good grief!

[tblue37]

97. My sentiments exactly--but both actually have said they are interested in a 2020 run. nt

[LAS14]

28. You're right that O'Malley is one of the few who...

... come to mind. But that's just pointing out a serious problem for Democrats, an apparent lack of youthful potential leaders. I'm looking for ways to address that via the Dems in Mass.

I liked O'Malley, but his inability to wrack up any points at all in the primaries is evidence of a serious lack of charisma. We do need charisma, along with character and smarts, etc., etc.

[brewens]

29. HILLARY 2020! IT'S TIME FOR A WOMAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE! (this time we really mean it).

IT'S HER TURN! THIRD TIME's A CHARM! WHOOO! HOOO!

[Fast Walker 52]

40. In some ways, I think that would be awesome and righteous

And in other ways, a disaster

[Raster]

64. Yes, in some ways **it could** be awesome or righteous...

...if we going for identity politics or dynasty politics...

There is a national, well-funded, well-publicized ANTI-CLINTON INDUSTRY, with it's own special "Hillary Hate" section. Predictably the white, lower information, mostly rural voters WILL CRAWL ACROSS BROKEN GLASS AND THROUGH FIRE TO VOTE AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON. It does not matter that she is the most qualified. It does not matter that she is one of the smartest in the room, in fact, in could hurt if it's perceived as a threat. The Clinton hate machine has been mother's milk for millions, courtesy of Faux News and other conservative media outlets. No, it's not logical, no it's not right, but it is what it is.

No, it is time for the Clintons to move on with their lives, and sideline their political aspirations. If they want to continue in the public arena --AND I HOPE THEY DO, I would love to see them broaden and expand their foundation. Specifically, I would love to see the Clintons ADOPT HAITI and pour their energies, their contacts, their good deeds into helping Haiti and her citizens gain some type of footing in today's world.

[Fast Walker 52]

73. I know, and I agree... but it would be so wonderful if she could prove them wrong somehow

but it probably won't be as president...

[Raster]

76. No, I think that train has sailed.

[Fast Walker 52]

116. nice mixed metaphor

on purpose?

[Raster]

122. Yep.

[Bucky]

82. ha!!

Funny, but trolling ain't nice

[ErikJ]

34. Yes! Sincerity and magnetism

And intelligence are what wins Presidential elections. People need to be INSPIRED to get off their butts and vote. They theyll also vote the down ticket Dems too. Win win.

[LAS14]

37. Boston Globe listed 20 possible Dems and Repubs.

I posted it over in GD.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028284811

[FrenchieCat]

50. Gavin Newsom

He's a liberal outsider that looks the part for those in the midwest on optics; Young, Fresh, Charismatic, Taller than Tramp, Better hair than Tramp, cooler than Tramp, more articulate than Tramp...in fact, he's everything that Tramp is not and more!...

Since Sex Scandals don't mean shit anymore, he's the one!
He's planning on running for Gov of California in 2018....
But I think we should draft him anyway!

He's the closest to a JFK Jr. without that name, IMO!

[LAS14]

88. Sex scandals?

What are they? Divorce doesn't mean anything. Sex out of marriage doesn't mean anything. But they aren't "scandals." What were you referring to? If it's really "scandal," then I wonder about moral fiber in general. I want someone solidly decent. And I think it would matter in rallying voters.

[FrenchieCat]

93. When then....Go with the little guy,

or whatever!

[apcalc]

51. Yeah , we don't want a worker bee with exceptional knowledge.

[B Calm]

52. We need to start rebuilding from the ground up with labor loving progressives,

before worrying about who we are going to run at the top of the ticket 4 years away.

[jalan48]

53. And when we find that man or woman-please-no secret speeches to big Wall Street banks.

It looks really, really bad when you're running for office as a Democrat and you are taking millions in speaking fees from these big corporations and banks.

[LenaBaby61]

62. And when we find that man or woman-please-no secret speeches to big Wall Street banks

Not that it will ever happen again, but it couldn't look any worse than a person whose a racist, misogynistic, sexual-assaulting, p***y-grabbing narcissistic PIG whose in love with Putin and Russia, and who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground who won the presidency with all of these "qualities"

[jalan48]

66. And Hillary couldn't beat this extremely weak candidate. Ask yourself why.

[LenaBaby61]

72. And...

Bernie couldn't beat Hillary.

I'm guessing we as Democrats be going round and round about this for a long time if not forever. Meanwhile, tRump--the uneducated, narcissistic, Putin-loving, p***y-grabbing vessel of the Alt-Right & racists (He's racist himself) will be busy burning all of our houses down, even those houses belonging to the "enthusiastic" voters who voted for him. I hope they enjoy that "change" in tRump they vote for because they OWN it. Unfortunately, those of us who at least try to keep ourselves educated about politics and about things going on around us etc., didn't vote for that con-man will all be suffering too because those who voted for tRump were mostly about change more than anything else--that's if what the political analysis I read about why they voted for him was accurate.

I guess those who voted for tRump never heard the concept that change for change sake isn't always good or productive.

[jalan48]

80. I think uneducated people are as sincere in their beliefs as we are in ours.

The "Us vs. Them" is a losing strategy.

[LenaBaby61]

108. It's sad though...

You know, this is THE year where voting while uneducated will have hideous and extremely nasty ramifications which will last for a generation and past that. IE: Supreme Court decisions passed down by a tRump Attila the Hun court that will hurt the very people who voted for tRump and change for change sake. Gerrymandering via the GOP will be on Steroids, and we're already losing our voting rights in Red states as Dems, but also, we'll be losing our voting rights in Blue states with GOP governors (WI) even more due to "giddy" neglect from a tRump DOJ who we know won't be paying almost NO attention to and even less time investigating ANY claims of voter intimidation/irregularities or voting rights violations bought to them by Democrats. Plus, I'm very much not trusting our voting apparatus due to the hacking by the Russians, who the uneducated are also oddly supportive of because of their support for tRump whose guilty of treason as he asked the Russians to hack a fellow opponents internal information and that did happen, and while those who may not be racist are most definitely co-signing racism/sexism/homophobia etc., because tRump has a Russian-loving racist NAZI in Bannon in a very high-level post in his administration.

[B Calm]

84. How do you feel about Super Delegates?

[LP2K12]

54. I like to dream...

Warren/Gabbard

or

Castro/Gabbard

We have a lot of work to do though and a lot of potential talent out there.

[tblue37]

68. Gabbard is not a liberal. nt

[LP2K12]

121. Well...

The OP said "we need a charismatic candidate." It did not specify that suggestions had to meet a certain level of liberalism or progressiveness.

Also, remember that not everyone representing themselves within our great party is of the same cloth. I was a Republican who voted Bush while I was a veteran. I voted for Obama twice, then Sanders and Clinton.

Being cookie cutter is part of what led us to this loss.

When it comes to Gabbard I think she is valuable to the party. Also, remember that she was basically told to toe the line because they didn't like her support of Sanders.

Some of Gabbard's views:

I consider myself pro-choice. (Sep 2012)
Ban anti-abortion limitations on abortion services. (Feb 2014)
Endorsed Endorsed by EMILY's list for pro-choice Democratic women. (Aug 2012)
Voted YES on reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act. (Feb 2013)
Endorsed by The Feminist Majority indicating a pro-women's rights stance. (Aug 2012)
Supports same-sex marriage. (Sep 2012)
Enforce against wage discrimination based on gender. (Feb 2013)
Small businesses are true job creators, not big corporations. (Nov 2012)
Tax incentives for wind, solar, biomass and wave energy. (Nov 2012)
Supports regulating greenhouse gas emissions. (Sep 2012)
More funding & services for victims of domestic violence. (Jan 2013)
Establish "My Voice Voucher" small campaign contributions. (Feb 2014)
Automatic voter registration for all citizens. (Mar 2015)
Opposes repealing ObamaCare. (Sep 2012)
No budget cuts to Medicare and Social Security. (Nov 2012)
End our involvement in Afghanistan. (Nov 2012)
Opposes combat operations in Afghanistan. (Sep 2012)

Oh and Gabbard's political plot:

[img][/img]
Tulsi Gabbard is a Libertarian-Leaning Liberal.
Click here for explanation of political philosophy.

[SHRED]

55. Gavin Newsom

[JonLP24]

74. Oh hell no not O'Malley

I don't think we can win with an obvious phony.

[Turbineguy]

77. This a a case where we get somebody

who cannot be got at, even with the right wing lies. The person has to be a male, white, christian, hetero, non-Jewish, the whole thing.

[LAS14]

87. I agree that the person has to have a a history as transparent...

... as glass, but I think we can go with non-white, non-male. Maybe not non-Christian yet...

But charismatic as well as un-get-atable.

[Turbineguy]

89. Oh, I can go for all those things too

it's just that we have to conform to the opposition.

[BainsBane]

78. You're joking?

The guy had excellent policies, but he has negative charisma.

[Bucky]

79. Martin O'Malley was my first choice. He's not exactly charismatic.

But Elizabeth Warren is sapiosexy. I'd follow her anywhere.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

85. Elizabeth Warren, Sherrod Brown and Bernie. n/t

[bettyellen]

99. I don't feel like Sanders learned much from his huge loss.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

109. I still like him for being very progressive.

I think the Democratic party screwed up by awarding so many delegates based on primaries/caucuses in very red and blue states. Those states are very safe in the general election for either party, so the focus should be the swing states to help win a general election.

I supported Hillary in the general election completely, and I was a "bad boy" who didn't even vote in the Democratic primary, but in hindsight I think Bernie would have performed better in the Rust Belt against Trump. He would have better countered the PERCEPTION of Trump's strength among some voters on free trade and economic globalization.

I'm not sure if delegate counts can be boosted in more critical states (to help promote a general election win) in the primaries or not? Perhaps we shouldn't be so quick to discount super-delegates if they are smart enough to vote for the candidate who will help them win the general election based on performance in swing states?

There's just no point, in my opinion, to award a candidate a bunch of delegates for winning states in the primaries like Alabama and Oklahoma. Although I didn't vote in the Ohio primary (voting for Hillary and all-Democrats in the general instead), I still followed it. The fact that Hillary was making electoral vote gains in states that wouldn't be close in the general election troubled me.

[AgadorSparticus]

86. Michele Obama for 2020!

[Fast Walker 52]

117. I was thinking this, this morning! She'd be great.

[etherealtruth]

91. while I agree that we need someone with charisma

... I don't think Martin O'Malley is it (I like him a lot but would not call him charismatic)

[FrenchieCat]

94. Agreed!

[DirkGently]

95. Agree but not O'Malley. Respectfully, he seems like some kind of

shiny robot. Maybe he means well, but he comes across as achingly practiced. Far more awkward even than Clinton on a personal level.

- Elizabeth Warren

- Sheldon Whitehouse

- Sherrod Brown

- Maybe one of the Castro twins? Have to see more of them.

[marylandblue]

100. Sherrod Brown nt

[Historic NY]

103. Lets worry about 2018 mid terms and try to capture some seats in the Senate & House

if no one turns out all else is a waste of energy.

[DesertFlower]

104. i like him.

[oasis]

110. Xavier Becerra, congressman from California. Quick learner,

excellent debater.

[JI7]

111. Martin O'Malley is NOT charismatic. and i think he would be great. but Hillary Clinton is much more

lively and charismatic than O'Malley is.

[Crunchy Frog]

112. Liz Warren. n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

114. Too soon, but I think Warren and Newsom are the future of the party.

[VOX]

115. Tom Hanks. In reality: Gavin Newsom. n/t

[Vinca]

119. That's sarcasm . . . right?

There's nothing charismatic about Martin O'Malley. Nice man, totally qualified, male version of the Hillary candidacy.