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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:28 AM Nov 2016

OK...who would you back in 2020?

These are just a few names I've heard mentioned. I'm open to adding names I haven't listed her(other than anyone who ran this year, since at this point it would be better if all of them sat it out) so feel free to offer them.


25 votes, 6 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Michelle Obama
6 (24%)
Tulsi Gabbard
1 (4%)
Tim Kaine
0 (0%)
Al Franken
0 (0%)
Michael Moore(he has actually talked about it)
1 (4%)
Elizabeth Warren(added by poster request)
15 (60%)
Kamala Harris
2 (8%)
Melinda Gates
0 (0%)
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OK...who would you back in 2020? (Original Post) Ken Burch Nov 2016 OP
From that list, Franken, but... Renew Deal Nov 2016 #1
Have no preference between ANY of them myself. just wondering where heads were on this. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #3
We have to see how the next 3 years shake out. Renew Deal Nov 2016 #5
Totally agree Freddie Nov 2016 #23
Warren think Nov 2016 #2
Added to the poll. Thanks. n/t. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #4
Add Kamala Harris and Melinda Gates. nt CK_John Nov 2016 #6
OK. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #8
I think Michelle would be terrific and is SUPREMELY popular, but I wouldn't wish another 8 years Grown2Hate Nov 2016 #7
I picked Kamala Harris because... liberalmuse Nov 2016 #9
Why do you think Warren wouldn't run? Ken Burch Nov 2016 #11
Haven't had enough at this point? longship Nov 2016 #10
Gavin Newsom FrenchieCat Nov 2016 #12
Newsom's gonna hopefully go through the CA Governor's office, first. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #17
If Trump got in with no experience whatsoever FrenchieCat Nov 2016 #20
like I said, he's one to watch, I think. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #21
Gavin's running for California governor in 2018. NBachers Nov 2016 #19
I think the airbnb question is a symptom, more than anything, because SF is a peninsula that doesn't Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #22
I'm in the Bay Area as you are. FrenchieCat Nov 2016 #24
Newsom isn't getting much traction. issue number one - gun control, n/t SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2016 #28
I am exhausted. BigDemVoter Nov 2016 #13
Other plausible candidates: BlueProgressive Nov 2016 #14
True. Most of them are from the "stay the course" wing of the party, though. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #15
Maybe some will have an epiphany due to the results BlueProgressive Nov 2016 #16
I voted Warren but, really, I suggest not having this conversation now. Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #18
wild card.... Mark Cuban Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #25
OMG, not this BainsBane Nov 2016 #26
Aw come on. Lunabell Nov 2016 #27
who is the most passionate and brilliant? SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2016 #29
I would look to see who avebury Nov 2016 #30
Sherrod Brown theglammistress Nov 2016 #31
Stupid choices. Worse than clickbait polls... NurseJackie Nov 2016 #32
Tammy Duckworth first, then Al Franken obamanut2012 Nov 2016 #33
It's too soon for a realistic decision... LP2K12 Nov 2016 #34
Bernie. Cobalt Violet Nov 2016 #35
No conservadems! Add Bernie's name! B Calm Nov 2016 #36
I picked Michelle, but she won't run. How about Martin O'Malley? lunamagica Nov 2016 #37

Renew Deal

(81,879 posts)
1. From that list, Franken, but...
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:29 AM
Nov 2016

I don't think Michelle wants to run for anything. Gabbard is a hawk. Kaine is interesting, but he wasn't great in the GE. Moore is unelectable.

Renew Deal

(81,879 posts)
5. We have to see how the next 3 years shake out.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:37 AM
Nov 2016

Dems need to go on a serious rebuilding binge. Maybe someone will surface from that.

I'm not convinced Trump will be president in 3 years.

The problem with Warren and Sanders is she will be 72 and he will be 78. I don't think it's feasible

Freddie

(9,275 posts)
23. Totally agree
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:59 AM
Nov 2016

We need to think younger! Bernie will be 78 in 2020, Elizabeth Warren 71 (I think)
No one connected to the Clintons or Obamas. That includes Tim Kaine, much as I like him.
Sen./former Gov. Maggie Hassan
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand
Sen. Kamala Harris
Sen. Bob Casey of PA. He's popular here and should easily win re-election in 2018. Says he's anti-choice but (unlike his dad) has never tried to inflict his views on others that I know of. He's un-controversial and squeaky-clean. Plus since we're stuck with the EC for the duration, we'd get PA back.

Grown2Hate

(2,013 posts)
7. I think Michelle would be terrific and is SUPREMELY popular, but I wouldn't wish another 8 years
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:41 AM
Nov 2016

of the shit that that beautiful family had to endure for them. I like where you're going with this, though. In any other context I'd say FUCK talking about 2020 at this point, but given what's going on, I'm kind of looking forward to the next election already (eyes on 2018 for now, though).

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
9. I picked Kamala Harris because...
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 01:57 AM
Nov 2016

Michelle and Elizabeth likely won't run. I'd totally back Bernie, too.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
12. Gavin Newsom
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 02:24 AM
Nov 2016

He's taller, more charismatic, has better hair, is cooler, and is younger! He's got a sex scandal to but that was a while ago, and he married a gal, now has three adorable little children. He could be our JFK Junior… Plus he's fresh and not A Washington insider.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
17. Newsom's gonna hopefully go through the CA Governor's office, first.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:28 AM
Nov 2016

I'd look for him in '24 or '28. But I agree he's one to watch.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
20. If Trump got in with no experience whatsoever
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:44 AM
Nov 2016

Why does Gavin have to be, governor before becoming a president? Is lieutenant governor… That should be good enough!

I think he's the best candidate to actually get Trump out of office in four years… I'm not waiting eight years!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
21. like I said, he's one to watch, I think.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:46 AM
Nov 2016

I'm all for it. He's been ahead of the curve on everything from marriage equality to marijuana legalization.

He wants to run in 4 years, I'd totally support him.

NBachers

(17,149 posts)
19. Gavin's running for California governor in 2018.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:43 AM
Nov 2016
http://www.gavinnewsom.com/

As a San Francisco resident, I've been lukewarm about Gavin. I may warm up a little more toward him after he gets some more political seasoning.

I will never forgive Newsom for his opposition to Proposition F, a 2015 City of San Francisco vote proposition that would have put sensible limits on Airbnb. The conventional wisdom of Airbnb is that Maw and Paw will make a few extra bucks in their golden years by renting out Junior's old room on a short-term basis. The reality of Airbnb is wholesale evictions and corporate participation, at the risk of anyone in the city who needs a place to live.

You can watch Gavin's pro Airbnb campaign video here- now I'm all upset about him all over again:

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
22. I think the airbnb question is a symptom, more than anything, because SF is a peninsula that doesn't
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:50 AM
Nov 2016

allow much of any development whatsoever.

So real estate is exorbitantly expensive with all the fallout that entails.

The fact of the matter is, there are a lot of people who want to live there, and not enough places for them to live. The Bay Area needs to have a long-overdue adult conversation about stuff like its reflexive NIMBYism, to my mind. Imagine all the commute, etc. problems that would have been solved if they had ran BART all the way up to Sonoma, decades ago, as they originally planned to.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
24. I'm in the Bay Area as you are.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 05:03 AM
Nov 2016

Not a Dealbreaker, for me anyway.

He's got charisma up the Yazoo, and standing next to Tramp, it will have to be someone who has everything The Tramp doesn't have… the smarts, but also shines in the optics Down to the height, the hair, the youth, but yet it's still seen as an outsider not tied down to Washington. He's been very liberal in the areas that are more nationwide oriented, and not having to do anything with A proposition in San Francisco… He was the mayor there for years and kept getting reelected. He's already been Lieutenant governor since 2011, so there's that.

There is no perfect person out there to the extent of going back to local propositions… I don't think it's wise to be so particular! That seems to be one of our problems getting hung up in the weeds!

 

BlueProgressive

(229 posts)
14. Other plausible candidates:
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 03:12 AM
Nov 2016

Brian Schweitzer (MT)
Cory Booker (NJ)
Andrew Cuomo (NY)
Kirsten Gillibrand (NY)
Amy Klobucher (MN)


I don't have a personal favorite at this point, nor would I necessarily back any on this list, but these folks have been mentioned before.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
15. True. Most of them are from the "stay the course" wing of the party, though.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 03:19 AM
Nov 2016

None can win the votes we need for 2020.

 

BlueProgressive

(229 posts)
16. Maybe some will have an epiphany due to the results
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:06 AM
Nov 2016

of this election--

but, I'm just saying that their names ought to be on the poll list with the others.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
18. I voted Warren but, really, I suggest not having this conversation now.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 04:29 AM
Nov 2016

Midterms ought to be the first concern, and even that is too soon.

BainsBane

(53,073 posts)
26. OMG, not this
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 05:10 AM
Nov 2016

We need to focus on gaining control of state legislatures and governors races. When the GOP controls elections, they limit the franchise and we can't win.

Please don't talk about the next presidential election already.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,147 posts)
29. who is the most passionate and brilliant?
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 06:08 AM
Nov 2016
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7573677/democrat-president-2020-election-bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren

Not sure this list gets to it. We don't know own if the scammer in chief will forever poison the well of non-politicians. There are some brilliant, successful liberals in the tech/scientific arena who may want to do their patriotic duty. Or at least restore the reputation of American Businessmen. Someone bold. And gender doesn't matter.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
30. I would look to see who
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 07:26 AM
Nov 2016

The Dems pick to give State of the Union responses to ser how the wind is blowing.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
32. Stupid choices. Worse than clickbait polls...
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 07:58 AM
Nov 2016

... at least the commercial clickbait polls TRY to be intelligently realistic. This is just silly.

LP2K12

(885 posts)
34. It's too soon for a realistic decision...
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 09:36 AM
Nov 2016

That being said, I'm really rooting for Tulsi Gabbard to progress through the party. She put her foot down and stood with Bernie even after DNC harassment. She's a strong woman who served (I'm a veteran, not a hawk), she appeals to the younger demographic, has Bernie's support, etc.

That being said, I think we have a lot of viable options if they start planning ahead.

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
35. Bernie.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 09:58 AM
Nov 2016

People love him and he is right on all the issues. He knows how to stick to the issues and not get diverted to personal attacks unlike Hillary. I live in swing state media market and all her ads were attacks on Trump. Not one was about what she wanted to do to help the working and middle class.

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