2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIs the Tea Party dead?
Or has Trump embodied the principles of the Tea Party and just affixed his name to it like it's a hotel?
I ask this question because the erudite DU'ers always seem to be able to inform me in ways that the print and television media cannot.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)WW3 for the right. Just hang tight. There is a shitstorm coming as the 3 factions on the right battle it out....
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)To me, the usual suspects who claimed to be Teabaggers jumped on the Trump movement. Didn't know if there were ideological differences between the two. You never hear about their policies anyway. It's all cult of personality.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)But I would think it would be about abortion and religious freedom (anti muslim). That is where trump broke with the mormons. They ran from that sort of religious persecution and religious folks are sensitive to it. Also, his sexist, mysogynistic bellowing turns many of evangelucal women off. Maybe? I don't know...
0rganism
(23,971 posts)the only positions and principles trump represents are how terrifically great he is. no supporting data required or desired. he doesn't want to articulate any positions because he's unable to do so intelligibly and the part of him responsible for not walking into traffic knows it. easiest way for him to build an initial strong base of support was to appeal to racists and xenophobes, in the usual manner ("they're taking your rightful American jobs!" nothing too original but it has galvanized and publicized the ugliest faction of our society, much to our detriment.
the teabaggers actually have a guiding ideology, bankrupt as it may be. their uneasy alliance with the pro-life evangelicals has brought them to disproportional power. their inability to deliver on any of the issues important to the evangelicals has driven many of the religious right into trumpism, possibly an even more uncomfortable pairing than with the teabagging economic elites.
trump's embrace of religion has to be one of the most awkward things i've seen this year, and i'm confident this is not lost on many of the religious right. his pussy-grabbing ways have to be making them even more nervous. but he's promising anti-choice justices, so they'll stick with him this time.
overall, trumps greatest achievement has been severing the ties that bind the Reagan coalition together. after his epic defeat this week, the racists, economic reactionaries, and religious fanatics will be scrabbling over the rancid corpse of the Republican party. the military-industrialists gave up months ago and are already looking ahead to their next move, taking over the Democratic party.
all imho, of course.
Uben
(7,719 posts)They'll be lying about who did what and what they can do. Shitstorm=more lying and bitching. Cuz in reality, they don't do anything else. A pretty worthless group of individuals....no solutions, no candidates, and no future.
IOW, the tea party has transformed the right into the GOF...grand ole failure!
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)bdamomma
(63,923 posts)to Birthers, Fascists' if that stupid man gets in.......I am sure someone else on DU will enlighten you on your question.
Lindsay
(3,276 posts)from the Tea Party Patriots some time in the last week.
I hung up too fast to hear what their actual message was.
But they're still around. In NC, anyway.
Bucky
(54,068 posts)on the other hand, they didn't get to be the Tea Party by having any faith in reality
Lochloosa
(16,069 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)But still animated by hatred for Obama and Clinton. See the nat'l deficit as their #issue. But they have no real ideology except "law n order," destroy the safety net, and cut cut cut taxes. The red-neck stupid ones will still have guns and deport immigrants as their top issues. The educated ones (neo-cons) may drift over to the Libertarian party with the Ayn Randers to cut gov't as much as possible and destroy the Federal Reserve. They are all an ignorant, ugly, and mean-spirited bunch. Don't know what the evangelicals will do? Big big circular firing squads in the GOP come Nov 9.
We must be vigilant about their trouble-making. They are Fascists looking for a strong authoritarian figure. Trump failed. Ted Cruz is certain to give it another try. Trump has been a learning experience for the alt-right. A lot of them, like Jason Chaffitz will use pages from the Trump playbook to get ahead and cultivate a following.
OnDoutside
(19,974 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)A prime opportunity to stop kowtowing to right wing extremists and be a truly progressive political party.
A prime opportunity to combat institutionalized racism and sexism.
Otherwise, the mid-terms of 2018 will result in a regression.
OnDoutside
(19,974 posts)a strategy to hammer the shite out of them if try it on, with a view to 2018 as you suggest. The win on Tuesday is a battle, the war is still on.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Mix in some jingoism, anti-establishmentarianism, and anti-intellectualism/extreme ignorance.
Top the mixture with a sprinkling of various conspiracy theories.
That's how you make a Tea Party/Trump/Alt-right sundae.