2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumKill All the Bush Tax Cuts and Start Over
That's the answer. Let all the Bush tax cuts expire and start over with new proposed tax cuts only for the middle class. Get the Republicans on record as being opposed to middle class tax cuts. Let them go back to the voters with that on their resume.
Bush I and Clinton raised taxes and cut defense, and we got budget surpluses.
Also, don't fall for the tax deduction bullshit. Every tax deduction in the code has a strong lobbying group behind it. If you take away mortgage deductions, the banks and the housing industry will swarm the congress and kill any cuts.
boingboinh
(290 posts)Thank you
robinlynne
(15,481 posts)DFW
(54,420 posts)They see it as a serious option if Bonehead and the Teabaggers refuse to remove their heads from the recesses of their digestive systems.
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)that's the strategy after we go over said "cliff".
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WaitWut
(71 posts)Everything up to this point is just a "sound bite" competition.
R's aren't going to go on record with a comparable plan, Pelosi can't get the 25 R's signatures to petition the house to move on the Senate budget, Republican leadership is getting great air time being "flabber-gasted..." and Democrats are happy being the one's with an idea. Dem's have a backbone, and Rep's will stand strong. Both bases can point at the other one as the one at fault and everyone is happy placing blame.
It is simply just good TV.
Once January 1 hits, then Congress (both sides of the aisle) will be able to negotiate more effectively because the Republicans will be cutting taxes, and Democrats will be increasing benefits.
cstanleytech
(26,306 posts)Sure it might hurt the economy in the short term but as things stand now the economy is suffering because of the fact the rich reneged on upholding their part of the bargain to create the jobs the country needs for those big tax cuts they were given years ago.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)50 corporate lobbyists to every congress member isnt democracy.
1ProudAtheist
(346 posts)in the words of the original post. Returning capital gains tax rates to 28% and reclassifying dividend income as regular earnings will both result in far more tax revenue than just rolling back the top 3 tax rates to Clinton era levels. I concur..........go over the cliff, then start over. Soak the hell out of those rich bastards who have stolen so much from so many over the last decade.
Lasher
(27,622 posts)I think the only way we're going to see even meager cuts to outrageous Pentagon spending is to go over the so-called "cliff".
SouthernDonkey
(256 posts)I like the idea of going back to the Eisenhower rates for the wealthy! It's not dificult to understand here. As we are a capital based society, obviously the ones with the most capital reap the most benefit from that society. The ones reaping the most benefit should be the ones footing most of the bill. Once again, it's simple math. Capital=benefit. Benefit=taxable income. A dollar is a dollar.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Xyzse
(8,217 posts)So, yeah, there are some going for it.
NuttyFluffers
(6,811 posts)undoing any of that man's stupid is a boon to our nation.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)harmonicon
(12,008 posts)thatwhichisnt
(12 posts)is kill the Reagan tax cuts on upper income.
Filibuster Harry
(666 posts)And the mortgage interest doesn't affect the rich as much because most rich (for example Romney) don't have a mortgage.
former9thward
(32,046 posts)If the tax cuts expire the Republicans in the House can simply not bring up a middle class tax cut for a vote. The majority has the power to bring up or not bring up anything. I believe all that tax cuts should be ended. Taxes need to go up for everyone. Democrats need to get out of the tax cut mentality.
Skittles
(153,170 posts)D23MIURG23
(2,850 posts)Being the party of tax cuts won't do the republicans any good if they only support tax cuts for 1% of the electorate.