WHAAA!! "Trump Org had a server designed to secretly, exclusively communicate with a Russian bank."

[misterhighwasted]

19m19 minutes ago
Dean Barker ?@deanbarker
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A secret email server talking to a Russian bank.
Shut down when NYT asked about it.
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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html …






Hillary HQ retweeted
Julia Ioffe
12m12 minutes ago
Julia Ioffe ?@juliaioffe
In case the insanity of this is unclear, I repeat: Trump Org had a server designed to secretly, exclusively communicate with a Russian bank.

[Angry Dragon]

1. The Siberian Candidate

[BumRushDaShow]

12. Activated with

[TrollBuster9090]

19. I've been in the Army for 19 years. First time I've ever SEEN one of these...

/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20110610123348

[Ilsa]

37. Love it. Copied it. Thanks. nt

[TrollBuster9090]

54. Why did the old ladies turn into Russians!? WHY DID THE OLD LADIES TURN INTO RUSSIANS!?

[Ace Rothstein]

2. About to go out trick-or-treating with the family.

I hope to come back and see that this has blown up.

[misterhighwasted]

5. Same here. This coming into the headlines now is maybe why they pre-empted the blowback with Comey's

.."distraction".

Trump's got Russia tied around his neck & this connection of drip drip is about to become a wide open spigot .

Spread this news far &.wide..like a forest fire. We have no time to waste.
Good luck trump

[Madam45for2923]

4. W.O.W.!!

[progressoid]

6. Holy shit.

[Madam45for2923]

7. “I have an outlier here that connects to Russia in a strange way,” he wrote in his notes.

In late July, one of these scientists—who asked to be referred to as Tea Leaves, a pseudonym that would protect his relationship with the networks and banks that employ him to sift their data—found what looked like malware emanating from Russia. The destination domain had Trump in its name, which of course attracted Tea Leaves’ attention. But his discovery of the data was pure happenstance—a surprising needle in a large haystack of DNS lookups on his screen. “I have an outlier here that connects to Russia in a strange way,” he wrote in his notes. He couldn’t quite figure it out at first. But what he saw was a bank in Moscow that kept irregularly pinging a server registered to the Trump Organization on Fifth Avenue.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html

[NastyRiffraff]

8. Reading this now

It's not an easy read--the subject matter itself is very complicated. But this seems to be very very bad indeed.

The trouble is, it's unlikely most Americans will understand it, and its implications. If true (and the computer scientists involved are highly respected), this alone would disqualify Trump for the presidency or ANY office in government, elected or not. As for the media, if it's not a quick sound bite they'll ignore it. (Besides, most won't understand it.)

The computer scientists were NOT looking for anything like this; they didn't have that agenda. But they found it.

[misterhighwasted]

11. True as to the public not getting the depth of what took place.

As I see it, Trump will not be President. However his entire international scheme will certainly ruin him as well as all those who aided him, when the dust finally clears.

This is some serious stuff exposed..and its only the beginning.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

57. This 75 year old brain was conditioned to view Russia

as an enemy of the USA.

[matt819]

9. There's no doubt

Trump is s Russian agent. Not s long term, deep cover thing, but at this point I would put money on the likelihood that trumps run is reducing his debt to Russian banks/oligarchs and rest if he wins he starts raking in some real dough.

This latest bit is icing on the cake. No question.

[DAMANgoldberg]

85. Not only that, IMO

...but this is a way to deny, delay, and trap all of the legal stuff against him.

http://www.newsweek.com/2016/11/11/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120.html

A logical conclusion from previous behavior being a pretty good predictor of the future, especially in his mind since it worked for him so far.

[Madam45for2923]

10. “The parties were communicating in a secretive fashion. The operative word is secretive."

Earlier this month, the group of computer scientists passed the logs to Paul Vixie. In the world of DNS experts, there’s no higher authority. Vixie wrote central strands of the DNS code that makes the internet work. After studying the logs, he concluded, “The parties were communicating in a secretive fashion. The operative word is secretive. This is more akin to what criminal syndicates do if they are putting together a project.” Put differently, the logs suggested that Trump and Alfa had configured something like a digital hotline connecting the two entities, shutting out the rest of the world, and designed to obscure its own existence. Over the summer, the scientists observed the communications trail from a distance.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html

[0rganism]

21. frickin Paul Vixie is on this

i studied some of his work in an undergrad TCP/IP class 20+ years ago
he has his own cron daemon named after him
to those of us who've worked extensively with Unix systems he is a goddam legend in his time
amazing
if Paul Vixie's bothering to comment on this situation, it's become "interesting" at the absolutely highest levels
this is the beginning of a serious shitstorm that will blow up bigly very very soon
i don't know how well tRump has prepared for it, but i wouldn't want to be anywhere near it when it blows

[anamandujano]

65. great info!

I'm easily understanding this in bite sized chunks as I'm getting them in this thread. It can easily be explained to the public.

[yardwork]

64. Paul Vixie says it looks like a crime syndicate.

Wow.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

67. For years there have been rumors of Trump being tied to organized crime

His foundation reeks of a money laundering operation. US banks have not been willing to lend Trump money for a long time because he doesn't pay his bills and files bankruptcy. It's not too far of a stretch to wonder if he gets his funding from Russian mafia loan sharks and he is in the pocket of Putin.

Stealth/hidden private Russian servers are expensive and are generally not used for anything wholesome. I think the next few days will be very interesting.

[yardwork]

68. I've assumed that Putin and Russian investors were funding Trump's campaign.

But I didn't know that any proof would be revealed before the election.

As you say, the only obvious source of Trump's money is a foreign government that can use him as a useful idiot tool.

[KewlKat]

13. ok...this has been going on since at least July and we're now hearing about this. Is this what Reid

was talking about, something explosive between drumpf and russia?

The researchers quickly dismissed their initial fear that the logs represented a malware attack. The communication wasn’t the work of bots. The irregular pattern of server lookups actually resembled the pattern of human conversation—conversations that began during office hours in New York and continued during office hours in Moscow. It dawned on the researchers that this wasn’t an attack, but a sustained relationship between a server registered to the Trump Organization and two servers registered to an entity called Alfa Bank.

[dalton99]

14. That explains his diverting attention to Hillary's server

[anamandujano]

66. Turning the tables 101-----He has done this with every issue.

[TonyPDX]

15. Why hasn't Comey shared THIS with us?

[Koinos]

32. Because it might interfere with the Russian candidate's campaign for president?

[RKP5637]

36. It would disrupt their agenda to push Trump as president. IMO there is a Coup going on. n/t

[Ilsa]

40. Maybe Comey's ties to Putin should be looked into. nt

[RKP5637]

43. It's all getting far too weird to be casual/coincidental. n/t

[Ilsa]

48. It's like turnabout being fair play:

Last edited Mon Oct 31, 2016, 10:11 PM - Edit history (1)

The gop insists that there is massive voter fraud. The story of insane proportions is more easily believed because most people are too honest to tell whoopers. But the sociopaths know that the whoopers will easily sell, so they declare ridiculous conspiracies against the Democrats, like us engaging in voter fraud.

The most reasonable scenario is that Comey is not an agent for the KGB, FSB, or whatever. But declaring him one is more believable because it's a bigger story, a new Big Lie to counter the shit they've been throwing like gibbons for decades.

[RKP5637]

51. And it's far from over. What a perpetual sh**storm the US lives in anymore, with M$M stirring the

bucket for their Ad revenue.

[TonyPDX]

80. Bingo.

[OKNancy]

16. My post from LBN - easy to follow summary of the contents of this article

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10141612269#post7

[misterhighwasted]

20. Thank you. I missed that LBN post when I posted this same one.

Yes it is complicated but gives a curious hint of a frightening campaign for our democracy.
Its a rather chilling dose of reality.

[KewlKat]

17. Hmmm.

Tea Leaves and his colleagues plotted the data from the logs on a timeline. What it illustrated was suggestive: The conversation between the Trump and Alfa servers appeared to follow the contours of political happenings in the United States. “At election-related moments, the traffic peaked,” according to Camp. There were considerably more DNS lookups, for instance, during the two conventions.

The Times hadn’t yet been in touch with the Trump campaign—Lichtblau spoke with the campaign a week later—but shortly after it reached out to Alfa, the Trump domain name in question seemed to suddenly stop working. When the scientists looked up the host, the DNS server returned a fail message, evidence that it no longer functioned.

[world wide wally]

18. Don't forget this important fact:

Trump is getting classified security briefings from US Intelligence

[Matthew Rose]

23. Drumpf's due to receive some reckless speculation:

You have to wonder if he was sharing that information with Russians, don't you?

[RKP5637]

38. I think he's a pipeline right to the Russians, I'm serious. There is a lot going on here to

install him as president.

[MountainMazza]

29. Oh my...horrifying...truly

[adigal]

59. And he's asking that Hillary's briefings be discontinued

Typical projection on his part.

[pnwmom]

22. This other story might have some interesting connections to yours:

It involves a Trump advisor who helped Trump write a foreign policy speech, and has earned hundreds of thousands for his work promoting a Russian pipeline -- and has connections to Alfa bank.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-campaign-lobbyist-russian-pipeline-229264

A Republican lobbyist was earning hundreds of thousands of dollars to promote one of Vladimir Putin’s top geopolitical priorities at the same time he was helping to shape Donald Trump’s first major foreign policy speech.

In the first two quarters of 2016, the firm of former Reagan administration official Richard Burt received $365,000 for work he and a colleague did to lobby for a proposed natural-gas pipeline owned by a firm controlled by the Russian government, according to congressional lobbying disclosures reviewed by POLITICO. The pipeline, opposed by the Polish government and the Obama administration, would complement the original Nord Stream, allowing more Russian gas to reach central and western European markets while bypassing Ukraine and Belarus, extending Putin’s leverage over Europe.

SNIP

This spring, Burt helped shape Trump’s first major foreign policy address, according to Burt and other sources. Burt recommended that Trump take a more “realist,” less interventionist approach to world affairs, as first reported by Reuters. Trump’s April 27 speech sounded those themes and called for greater cooperation with Russia.

SNIP

Burt’s connections to Russia go back many decades. In 1989, former President George H.W. Bush appointed Burt to negotiate the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty with the USSR, which was concluded in 1991. In recent years, the 69-year-old Burt said he has advised Russia’s Alfa Bank, and he continues to work with the bank’s co-founder, Mikhail Fridman. Burt has also registered for recent lobbying work on behalf of the Ukrainian construction firm TMM, the Polish government-owned airline LOT and the Capital Bank of Jordan.

[OKNancy]

24. had a thought - paying the wikileaks leaker or getting previews of the wikileaks inf?? n/t

[blue cat]

53. Bingo!

You win!

[sba]

25. Thank goodness we are talking about emails that may or may not

have anything to do with HRC.

I feel better.

[anamandujano]

78. Seriously amazing!

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

26. Putin's daughter runs a charity funded by Alfa Bank

http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/russia-capitalism-daughters/

Vladimir Putin’s elder daughter, Maria, has kept out of the spotlight even more than her sister. Reuters was unable to find any recent, confirmed photographs of Maria.

Born on Apr. 28, 1985, Maria studied biology at St. Petersburg University and medicine at Moscow State University.

According to Russian and Western media reports, she married a Dutch businessman called Jorrit Joost Faassen. Some reports claimed she lived in the Netherlands for a while, but this could not be confirmed.

Earlier this year, Putin said both his daughters were living in Moscow, but gave no further details.

Maria now uses the surname Faassen, and under that name she is pursuing a biomedical career specialising in the endocrine system, which controls the body’s hormones, according to academic listings and publications.

On the website of Istina, a directory of scholars and their work at Moscow State University, she is listed as co-author of five studies published in the past two years, with titles including “The status of blood antioxidant system in patients with active acromegaly.”

She is also the co-author of a book about “Idiopathic stunting” in children, published earlier this year by Lambert Academic Publishing.

Maria is a PhD candidate at the Endocrinology Research Centre in Moscow, which runs a charity project, Alfa-Endo, that helps children affected by endocrine ailments. The project’s website includes a presentation by Maria.

Maria told Reuters in an email that requests for information about the centre should be directed to its leadership. She did not respond to questions about when she was married or whether her father’s position had affected her career.

Alfa-Endo is funded by Alfa Bank, a large Russian bank with subsidiaries in the United States, Britain and Cyprus. The largest shareholder is Mikhail Fridman, a billionaire with interests in banking, energy and telecoms. An official at the bank said: “Alfa Bank, and broadly speaking Alfa Group, act as financial sponsors for the project and that’s it … We are not aware who else is participating in the project otherwise.”

Maria’s husband used to work for Gazprombank, a large lender with strong links to the elite around Putin. And until at least August this year, Jorrit Joost Faassen was listed on the website of MEF Audit, a Russian consulting group, as its deputy chairman. He no longer appears on the website and did not respond to requests for comment.

[Bobcat]

89. Alfa Bank

Alfa Bank appears to be a central player in this. It is the bank that communicated with Trump's server - as per the Slate article. It is also connected to Mr. Burt, who says he helped Trump craft his first foreign policy speech - as per the Politico article. Do you suppose this entity would show up in the Trump tax returns? Follow the money.

[napkinz]

27. can we say BOMBSHELL? NOVEMBER SURPRISE???

Hello, MSM, why aren't you giving this the same frenzied attention you've been giving Hillary's emails the past four days!

[RKP5637]

41. M$M will have none of this. It will disrupt their agenda to install Trump as president. n/t

[napkinz]

55. Comey has said he will not comment on the Email investigation until it is completed and that it

won't be completed until AFTER the election.

So it's time for the MSM to get off Hillary's Emails and start covering Russia-Gate, now!

[RKP5637]

56. One would think so! Often M$M operates more as agents. n/t

[napkinz]

71. we've been hearing emails, emails, emails, emails, emails, emails, emails, emails for FOUR days now

by Wednesday I want to be hearing

Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia
Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia
Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia
Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia
Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia
Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia

[RKP5637]

72. Yep, SOS, camouflage and mental programming for the mindless. n/t

[whttevrr]

28. Server shut down after being asked about it's existence...

Soon, the New York Times’ Eric Lichtblau and Steven Lee Myers began chasing the story. (They are still pursuing it.) Lichtblau met with a Washington representative of Alfa Bank on Sept. 21, and the bank denied having any connection to Trump. (Lichtblau told me that Times policy prevents him from commenting on his reporting.)


The Times hadn’t yet been in touch with the Trump campaign—Lichtblau spoke with the campaign a week later—but shortly after it reached out to Alfa, the Trump domain name in question seemed to suddenly stop working. When the scientists looked up the host, the DNS server returned a “fail” message, evidence that it no longer functioned. Or as it is technically diagnosed, it had SERVFAILed. (On the timeline above, this is the moment at the end of the chronology when the traffic abruptly spikes, as servers frantically attempt to resend rejected messages.) The computer scientists believe there was one logical conclusion to be drawn: The Trump organization shut down the server after Alfa was told that the Times might expose the connection. Nicholas Weaver told me the Trump domain was “very sloppily removed.” Or as another of the researchers put it, it looked like “the knee was hit in Moscow, the leg kicked in New York.”

From:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html

Four days later, on September 27, the Trump organization created a new host name, trump1.contact-client.com, which enabled communication to the very same server via a different route. When a new host name is created, the first communication with it is never random. To reach the server after the resetting of the host name, the sender of the first inbound mail has to first learn of the name somehow. It’s simply impossible to randomly reach a renamed server. “That party had to have some kind of outbound message through sms, phone, or some non-internet channel they used to communicate [the new configuration],” Paul Vixie told me. The first attempt to look up the revised host name came from Alfa Bank. “If this was a public server, we would have seen other traces,” Vixie says. “The only look-ups came from this particular source.”


According to Vixie and others, the new host name may have represented an attempt to establish a new channel of communication. But media inquiries into the nature of Trump’s relationship with Alfa Bank, which suggested that their communications were being monitored, may have deterred the parties from using it. Soon after the New York Times began to ask questions, the traffic between the servers stopped cold.


* * *

[CRH]

61. I don't know much about servers, networks, domains etc., but, ...

If someone within the Trump organization wanted to enlist a private server with a direct connection to the Russian Alfa Bank, why would they allow the Trump name to be traceable through any means. It seems if you are good enough to initiate this system, you would be good enough to hide the origin? Just a skeptical thought, that puzzles me.

[whttevrr]

62. Someone did not think that it would be traced?

Don't worry about it...

Hillary is on it:

Hillary Clinton ?@HillaryClinton 1h1 hour ago
It's time for Trump to answer serious questions about his ties to Russia. http://slate.me/2dWggCd pic.twitter.com/07dRyEmPjX

[Spitfire of ATJ]

30. IKYABWAI?

[First Speaker]

31. I guess these e-mails don't matter to the Repubs...

[William769]

33. Kick & recommended.

[napkinz]

34. K&R

[Barack_America]

35. Pardon me, what?

[bluedigger]

39. We're just going to laugh and laugh about all this.

Someday.

[RKP5637]

42. K&R! n/t

[bucolic_frolic]

44. Equivalent to accountant keeping two sets of books

one for the tax man, the other for himself

[Ilsa]

45. Alfa Bank should be hacked so we can find out

how much donald really owes them. They may have convinced him to try and take down our economy by defaulting on our debt.

[elehhhhna]

69. Or they owe him..

[Hekate]

46. Once again: Whateverthehell The Don accuses others of is pure projection of what HE IS DOING.

Godsdamn that man.

[Ilsa]

49. Yep. He's textbook. So easy to read. No wonder the APA

had to issue a new, modern day Goldwater letter.

[Lucinda]

52. My thoughts exactly.

[sinkingfeeling]

47. Probably won't make the news.

[Stonepounder]

50. One very minor quibble with the Slate article.

First, yes, if Paul Vixie is on it, it is the equivalent of Nobel commenting on the properties of dynamite, or Marie Curie commenting on radium.

My quibble is on something at the very end of the article, where it says: "The very reason DNS exists is to enable email (and other means of communication.)" This is somewhat akin to saying that gasoline exists is to run your lawnmower (and other means of propulsion).

"Other means of communication" include every internet address you type in. You want to go to DU? You have to do a DNS lookup to find out the IP address of DU. (It is then cached on your local system for a period of time). DNS make the internet, including email, work.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

60. Video to help those who don't understand what DNS is...

[Stonepounder]

70. Didn't want to get too deep into DNS and hierarchical and canonical servers

and the like. But thanks for the vid. I may try and show it to the spouse. LOL like that would happen.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

73. You're welcome!

I find that videos that simplify things help people understand how something works.

[Farmgirl1961]

58. Is this not TREASON????

trea·son
ˈtrēzən/Submit
noun
the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.


18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
US Code
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Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

[kentuck]

83. The question is: Is it too early to ask that question?

[kimbutgar]

63. Too bad the media will ignore this.

I doubt the evening news on any of the 4 networks will report this.......but I hope I am wrong!

[Dem2]

75. K&R

[Jarqui]

76. What are "emails" ... ?

[Raster]

77. Comrad Trump...

[Kablooie]

79. Yeah but Hillary had her own email server. She belongs in prison for life!

Trump is just being Trump so it doesn't matter.

----

My faith in humanity has dropped through the floor because of this election.
When can I move to Mars?

[Cha]

81. Yeah, I believe it! It wasn't just our lying eyes putting

all the clues TOGETHER!

Mahalo, mister!

[kentuck]

82. As I recall, Paul Manafort returned from Russia to be Donald Trump's campaign manager?

Perhaps he was the messenger from Moscow?

[Sancho]

88. Why not just ask Trump's Russian handler (Melania) about the server?

[reign88]

90. This confused me

I'm trying to understand how much they can really glean from DNS lookups. I mean, it just means a machine is being queried but it could be anything. Has anyone seen a more technical explanation of why this is strange?

[SunSeeker]

91. K & R