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pipewrench

(194 posts)
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:10 AM Nov 2012

Data Shows Trump is Hurting The Store

Last edited Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:11 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-is-hurting-macys-2012-11

"On Tuesday, Macy's CMO Martine Reardon said the reason the store will not drop licensor Donald Trump, despite his bizarre allegations that President Obama might not be American, is because Macy's listens more closely to its shoppers than to the media. (Or to online petitions calling for Macy's to drop Trump.)

She might want to listen again. New data from YouGov BrandIndex shows Macy's approval rating among women over 18 has plunged dramatically in recent weeks. Now, it's even below that of troubled discount giant JCPenney."

Reputation matters and people have long , long memories......
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Data Shows Trump is Hurting The Store (Original Post) pipewrench Nov 2012 OP
The people have spoken. "Hey Trump. You're Fired!" /nt think Nov 2012 #1
you're fired. please. efhmc Nov 2012 #9
Whoops. Fixed that. Sorry for my sloppy English. think Nov 2012 #14
Thanks for changing it. efhmc Nov 2012 #35
MACYS is an overpriced dump now anyway. lalalu Nov 2012 #2
+100 (nt) MA Mom Nov 2012 #13
Years to build zipplewrath Nov 2012 #3
You would think so. EarthGurl2012 Nov 2012 #24
Pre cursor to dumping Trump. sarcasmo Nov 2012 #4
In the last YouGov I gave a thumbs down to Macy's LiberalFighter Nov 2012 #5
Women are responsible for about 80% of household spending.............. kooljerk666 Nov 2012 #10
I didn't know it was that high... LiberalFighter Nov 2012 #18
People should boycott Trump's NBC TV series too when it comes back WI_DEM Nov 2012 #6
What Trump NBC TV series? I haven't watched NBC in years. You mean MSNBC? I watch MSNBC. RickFromMN Nov 2012 #25
Macy will have to sue the republican party for killing their brand. Sunlei Nov 2012 #7
I don't love Macy's on a good day, because of all their bullshit coupons and caveats. MADem Nov 2012 #8
I thought that's all a Macy's was anyway. JoeyT Nov 2012 #23
What do women over 18 have to do with the Trump store? Renew Deal Nov 2012 #11
Women have to look femrap Nov 2012 #12
LOL, it's true and lalalu Nov 2012 #19
Alot of men rely on their wives and girlfriends to buy them clothes LynneSin Nov 2012 #30
I heaven05 Nov 2012 #15
I refuse to shop at Macy's Iliyah Nov 2012 #16
From what I've seen when I've shopped at Macy's, there aren't many to lose their jobs... Moonwalk Nov 2012 #17
This on top of the fact that Macy's CEO (Terry Lundgren) is on the "Fix the Debt" list.... Moonwalk Nov 2012 #20
Let's just say that if I worked at Macy's . . . EarthGurl2012 Nov 2012 #21
Macy's Only Listens to It's Wingnut CEO AndyTiedye Nov 2012 #22
I have gone into Macy's at about this time EVERY year for about a decade & spent >$400.00. patrice Nov 2012 #26
Just another chapter in the CEO's are Stupid book. Kalidurga Nov 2012 #27
I can easily say i spend about $2-5k a year in that store LynneSin Nov 2012 #28
Hope you have told/will tell the PTB at Macy's that.... tpsbmam Nov 2012 #31
You'd be suprised LynneSin Nov 2012 #33
I think we should have online card-cutting-up parties, complete with posted pics of the pieces. nt patrice Nov 2012 #29
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #32
Free the squirrel! struggle4progress Nov 2012 #34
And, we've been having amazing Proof that Cha Nov 2012 #36
 

think

(11,641 posts)
14. Whoops. Fixed that. Sorry for my sloppy English.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:49 PM
Nov 2012

Last edited Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:50 PM - Edit history (1)

I should know better

 

lalalu

(1,663 posts)
2. MACYS is an overpriced dump now anyway.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:15 AM
Nov 2012

It is nothing like what it use to be. After the competition from Gimbels and Bambergers left their quality went down and their prices went up. There was a time they actually competed with each other and the shopper won.

Trump is a fitting symbol of their lowbrow and overinflated present day status. I stopped shopping there a long time ago.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
3. Years to build
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:30 AM
Nov 2012

In the retail world, reputations take years to build, and a minute to destroy. One would think Macy's would be a bit more careful.

LiberalFighter

(50,950 posts)
5. In the last YouGov I gave a thumbs down to Macy's
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:47 AM
Nov 2012

Of course, they won't listen to men about that. And there really isn't any reason to as I think it is geared more towards women buyers. The women in the marriage are the ones that usually do the cooking, use the appliances, and maintain the furniture. So of course, their opinion and decision is more important. Why should I decide what type of refrigerator or stove should be purchased when I may not be using it as much? The man can help weigh the differences and make suggestions but should also listen to the woman as to what might be best.

I'm wondering which stores have women as their top customers and which ones have them nearly the same? And I'm wondering how clothing sales match up between women and men department?

 

kooljerk666

(776 posts)
10. Women are responsible for about 80% of household spending..............
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:10 PM
Nov 2012

so if you are a retailer there is no other big block of people you want to piss off.

LiberalFighter

(50,950 posts)
18. I didn't know it was that high...
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:29 PM
Nov 2012

but thought it was higher than men as the woman is the person mainly responsible in the family. Then add in the single women.

RickFromMN

(478 posts)
25. What Trump NBC TV series? I haven't watched NBC in years. You mean MSNBC? I watch MSNBC.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:06 PM
Nov 2012

Haven't watched a program from CBS, NBC, or ABC in years. Pitiful.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. Macy will have to sue the republican party for killing their brand.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:01 PM
Nov 2012

The Vultures are probably feeding now and borrowing money, couple lawsuits to add to the final profits.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. I don't love Macy's on a good day, because of all their bullshit coupons and caveats.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:03 PM
Nov 2012

However, I will only use them as a cut-through from the parking lot on the way to the food court, henceforth!!

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
23. I thought that's all a Macy's was anyway.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:53 PM
Nov 2012

Until now I didn't know that stuff was for sale. I thought it was some weird avant-garde art project aimed at the people that were entering the mall. A "Behold The Capitalist Thoroughfare!" sort of thing.

 

femrap

(13,418 posts)
12. Women have to look
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:32 PM
Nov 2012

at the men in their lives....they buy their clothes and most dress them. IRL, it seems that only gay men know how to dress. A generalization, I know....but that's what I see in MY life.

Most straight men look like they dress in the dark. Just my experience.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
30. Alot of men rely on their wives and girlfriends to buy them clothes
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:15 PM
Nov 2012

So if women are seeing Macy's in a negative light that means they might be going elsewhere to buy clothes for their husband/partners.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
15. I
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:54 PM
Nov 2012

only feel sorry for the people who might lose their job if trump, by his association and the cmo, destroy Macy's.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
17. From what I've seen when I've shopped at Macy's, there aren't many to lose their jobs...
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:22 PM
Nov 2012

...trying to find a sales clerk in Macy's is like being in some lonesome prairie at night with only crickets for company. You can wander through half the women's wear and never see a sale's clerk. And when you do, there's only one manning a register. Good luck if you want or need any help--because that one poor clerk is busy with a line of people because she is the only sales person in sight. As you can well imagine, the sales people at Macy's haven't much enthusiasm for their jobs.

So, sadly, yes, because of this people will lose their jobs, but not many. Macy's has shamefully been cutting corners for years. Not only are their sales people few and run-down--and I've no doubt underpaid--but so are the stores. Not well kept-up, looking old and tired.

Nordstrom's, on the other hand, has mastered the art of making the customer feel like a queen. Step into any department and someone will be at your elbow asking if they can help you find anything. And they know what is in their department as well--and where it is. And the store itself is sparkling and polished. I can't speak for their politics, but they demonstrate the opposite philosophy. Rather than relying on name-people to lure in customers (like Trump) while neglecting service and environment, they went for good service and an inviting environment.


Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
20. This on top of the fact that Macy's CEO (Terry Lundgren) is on the "Fix the Debt" list....
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:31 PM
Nov 2012

...meaning he's part of the campaign spending $30 million dollars to make sure they get their deficit reduction deal rammed through during this lame duck session of congress (see here). That's the one where they argue that the poor have to sacrifice more--including Medicare, etc. to repair the deficit rather than having any of them or their companies pay more (or any) taxes.

Any wonder they want to keep Trump as a spokesperson? He seems to represent them aptly. And I hope he does such a good job making shoppers turn away from Macy's that Lundgren is blamed for the idea and fired.

EarthGurl2012

(80 posts)
21. Let's just say that if I worked at Macy's . . .
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:34 PM
Nov 2012

I would be worried long term, and planning for another job search. Lundgren will be the downfall of the company because he and his Court got greedy. How many people did they put out of work over the last 10 or so years? How many stores did they gobble up? Federated, or what we now call Macy's Inc. is no different from Romney and Bain.



Just my opinion.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
26. I have gone into Macy's at about this time EVERY year for about a decade & spent >$400.00.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:09 PM
Nov 2012

There is NO time in the foreseeble future in which I will continue that behavior.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
27. Just another chapter in the CEO's are Stupid book.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:11 PM
Nov 2012

First off CEO's like poor conservatives vote against their interest. Secondly they make stupid decisions to cut labor to the point that customer service suffers. Then when they lose sales they cut labor even more and customer service suffers, so they cut labor more then they are out of business and can't figure out why.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
28. I can easily say i spend about $2-5k a year in that store
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:13 PM
Nov 2012

Yes maybe I'm the ultimate consumer and I do like to shop. Last 2 years I haven't been buying as much.

But I won't be spending a dime there again as long as Macy's keeps hyping that racist asshole.

I've been doing more shopping at JCP. When the religious nuts targetted them for using Ellen DeGeneres I thought I should help support them.

tpsbmam

(3,927 posts)
31. Hope you have told/will tell the PTB at Macy's that....
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:45 PM
Nov 2012

they need to hear it from their dedicated customers. I suspect there are few who can claim spending $2-5k a year anywhere but on their house/car payments! Certainly not in the recession economy, at least. You withdrawing your shopping dollars and those like you would have a huge impact, particularly if you call out the CEO for being the moron she is!

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
33. You'd be suprised
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 03:31 PM
Nov 2012

I mean to be honest there is not much difference between Macy's and places like Target or Wal-Mart. Sure the latter have grocery/drugstore offerings but outside of that they are pretty much the same. Except Macy's is just a nicer place to shop. Spending even $2k a year isn't that hard knowing that any new clothes, shoes and most of my makeup/skin care come from Macys. And if you have a family and shop there that number is easy to reach.

Cha

(297,323 posts)
36. And, we've been having amazing Proof that
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 06:46 PM
Nov 2012

Activism is Working! Look at limbaugh's former sponsors.

Thanks for this pipewrench

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