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Related: About this forumData Shows Trump is Hurting The Store
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http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-is-hurting-macys-2012-11"On Tuesday, Macy's CMO Martine Reardon said the reason the store will not drop licensor Donald Trump, despite his bizarre allegations that President Obama might not be American, is because Macy's listens more closely to its shoppers than to the media. (Or to online petitions calling for Macy's to drop Trump.)
She might want to listen again. New data from YouGov BrandIndex shows Macy's approval rating among women over 18 has plunged dramatically in recent weeks. Now, it's even below that of troubled discount giant JCPenney."
Reputation matters and people have long , long memories......
think
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efhmc
(14,731 posts)think
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I should know better
efhmc
(14,731 posts)lalalu
(1,663 posts)It is nothing like what it use to be. After the competition from Gimbels and Bambergers left their quality went down and their prices went up. There was a time they actually competed with each other and the shopper won.
Trump is a fitting symbol of their lowbrow and overinflated present day status. I stopped shopping there a long time ago.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)In the retail world, reputations take years to build, and a minute to destroy. One would think Macy's would be a bit more careful.
EarthGurl2012
(80 posts)You are so right on.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)Of course, they won't listen to men about that. And there really isn't any reason to as I think it is geared more towards women buyers. The women in the marriage are the ones that usually do the cooking, use the appliances, and maintain the furniture. So of course, their opinion and decision is more important. Why should I decide what type of refrigerator or stove should be purchased when I may not be using it as much? The man can help weigh the differences and make suggestions but should also listen to the woman as to what might be best.
I'm wondering which stores have women as their top customers and which ones have them nearly the same? And I'm wondering how clothing sales match up between women and men department?
kooljerk666
(776 posts)so if you are a retailer there is no other big block of people you want to piss off.
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)but thought it was higher than men as the woman is the person mainly responsible in the family. Then add in the single women.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)RickFromMN
(478 posts)Haven't watched a program from CBS, NBC, or ABC in years. Pitiful.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)The Vultures are probably feeding now and borrowing money, couple lawsuits to add to the final profits.
MADem
(135,425 posts)However, I will only use them as a cut-through from the parking lot on the way to the food court, henceforth!!
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)Until now I didn't know that stuff was for sale. I thought it was some weird avant-garde art project aimed at the people that were entering the mall. A "Behold The Capitalist Thoroughfare!" sort of thing.
Renew Deal
(81,863 posts)I don't think there is much of a connection.
femrap
(13,418 posts)at the men in their lives....they buy their clothes and most dress them. IRL, it seems that only gay men know how to dress. A generalization, I know....but that's what I see in MY life.
Most straight men look like they dress in the dark. Just my experience.
lalalu
(1,663 posts)don't let them dress the kids.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)So if women are seeing Macy's in a negative light that means they might be going elsewhere to buy clothes for their husband/partners.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)only feel sorry for the people who might lose their job if trump, by his association and the cmo, destroy Macy's.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)behind the Trump bullshit!
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...trying to find a sales clerk in Macy's is like being in some lonesome prairie at night with only crickets for company. You can wander through half the women's wear and never see a sale's clerk. And when you do, there's only one manning a register. Good luck if you want or need any help--because that one poor clerk is busy with a line of people because she is the only sales person in sight. As you can well imagine, the sales people at Macy's haven't much enthusiasm for their jobs.
So, sadly, yes, because of this people will lose their jobs, but not many. Macy's has shamefully been cutting corners for years. Not only are their sales people few and run-down--and I've no doubt underpaid--but so are the stores. Not well kept-up, looking old and tired.
Nordstrom's, on the other hand, has mastered the art of making the customer feel like a queen. Step into any department and someone will be at your elbow asking if they can help you find anything. And they know what is in their department as well--and where it is. And the store itself is sparkling and polished. I can't speak for their politics, but they demonstrate the opposite philosophy. Rather than relying on name-people to lure in customers (like Trump) while neglecting service and environment, they went for good service and an inviting environment.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...meaning he's part of the campaign spending $30 million dollars to make sure they get their deficit reduction deal rammed through during this lame duck session of congress (see here). That's the one where they argue that the poor have to sacrifice more--including Medicare, etc. to repair the deficit rather than having any of them or their companies pay more (or any) taxes.
Any wonder they want to keep Trump as a spokesperson? He seems to represent them aptly. And I hope he does such a good job making shoppers turn away from Macy's that Lundgren is blamed for the idea and fired.
EarthGurl2012
(80 posts)I would be worried long term, and planning for another job search. Lundgren will be the downfall of the company because he and his Court got greedy. How many people did they put out of work over the last 10 or so years? How many stores did they gobble up? Federated, or what we now call Macy's Inc. is no different from Romney and Bain.
Just my opinion.
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)There is NO time in the foreseeble future in which I will continue that behavior.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)First off CEO's like poor conservatives vote against their interest. Secondly they make stupid decisions to cut labor to the point that customer service suffers. Then when they lose sales they cut labor even more and customer service suffers, so they cut labor more then they are out of business and can't figure out why.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Yes maybe I'm the ultimate consumer and I do like to shop. Last 2 years I haven't been buying as much.
But I won't be spending a dime there again as long as Macy's keeps hyping that racist asshole.
I've been doing more shopping at JCP. When the religious nuts targetted them for using Ellen DeGeneres I thought I should help support them.
tpsbmam
(3,927 posts)they need to hear it from their dedicated customers. I suspect there are few who can claim spending $2-5k a year anywhere but on their house/car payments! Certainly not in the recession economy, at least. You withdrawing your shopping dollars and those like you would have a huge impact, particularly if you call out the CEO for being the moron she is!
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)I mean to be honest there is not much difference between Macy's and places like Target or Wal-Mart. Sure the latter have grocery/drugstore offerings but outside of that they are pretty much the same. Except Macy's is just a nicer place to shop. Spending even $2k a year isn't that hard knowing that any new clothes, shoes and most of my makeup/skin care come from Macys. And if you have a family and shop there that number is easy to reach.
patrice
(47,992 posts)ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)struggle4progress
(118,295 posts)Cha
(297,323 posts)Activism is Working! Look at limbaugh's former sponsors.
Thanks for this pipewrench