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Fess up Rick Wilson!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Original Post) leftofcool Oct 2016 OP
He'll do it Monday or Tuesday budkin Oct 2016 #1
Please pardon my ignorance...but what's the Kraken? Farmgirl1961 Oct 2016 #2
Sea monster: MineralMan Oct 2016 #3
A kraken mainstreetonce Oct 2016 #4
... In_The_Wind Oct 2016 #5
Know your meme! lapucelle Oct 2016 #8
the kraken was ultimate destroyer getagrip_already Oct 2016 #11
lol - I'm glad you asked. My mind read it as "Kragle". I thought it was OhioBlue Oct 2016 #21
Unleash the Kragle! Zorro Oct 2016 #25
... Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2016 #32
I wonder if he is just another drunken tweeter bragging about stuff. mucifer Oct 2016 #6
okay -- get it -- got it....I thought it was the actual name of a scandal! Farmgirl1961 Oct 2016 #7
Are we sure it's against cheeto? kimbutgar Oct 2016 #9
He loathes Trump more than he dislikes Hillary n/t moonscape Oct 2016 #17
wilson has claimed multiple times that it's against trump Tom Rivers Oct 2016 #24
I think it's what politico is saying - There IS evidence of Trump's Russian alliances. blm Oct 2016 #10
and pence would make him vp..... getagrip_already Oct 2016 #12
Pence is a real sneaky, smooth talking POS. wisteria Oct 2016 #27
I keep saying this every chance I get, because people say well he's much more mature Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #28
Very cryptic Suburban Warrior Oct 2016 #13
It is out of his hands Loki Liesmith Oct 2016 #15
It isn't HIS oppo dump bluestateguy Oct 2016 #16
Wilson responds ... napkinz Oct 2016 #18
he is just trolling people to get more looks at McMullin MistakenLamb Oct 2016 #19
still, timing is important.... getagrip_already Oct 2016 #20
if they have something up their sleeve then it's smart to let the email story burn out first Tom Rivers Oct 2016 #22
I think he is just messing with Dems...the other day helpisontheway Oct 2016 #23
Wilson is solidly NeverTrump. McMullen is not a viable option for Wilson. emulatorloo Oct 2016 #26
He is very much pro McMullen. He has many posts on his twitter about McMullen. Nt helpisontheway Oct 2016 #29
McMullen will not win the election. Either Trump or Hillary will. emulatorloo Oct 2016 #30
Who's Rick Wilson? 2naSalit Oct 2016 #31
a #NeverTrump gop strategist Tom Rivers Oct 2016 #33
Liz Mair, Frank Luntz, 2 well connected GOP operatives, back up Wilson... tableturner Oct 2016 #34
tick tock...... getagrip_already Oct 2016 #35
Rick Wilson, Evan M.. ect fun n serious Oct 2016 #36
I've seen a dozen threads on Trump's ties to Russia in the last couple of hours napkinz Oct 2016 #37

Farmgirl1961

(1,494 posts)
2. Please pardon my ignorance...but what's the Kraken?
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 01:18 PM
Oct 2016

I agree....it's time to get the Trump stuff out there!

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
11. the kraken was ultimate destroyer
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 01:32 PM
Oct 2016

In ancient Greek mythology. Once released, it couldn't be stopped except by the gods (or demigods) themselves.

It usually left quite a mess. Not easy on the furnishings.

OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
21. lol - I'm glad you asked. My mind read it as "Kragle". I thought it was
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 09:45 PM
Oct 2016

a reference to "The Lego Movie"!

Tom Rivers

(459 posts)
24. wilson has claimed multiple times that it's against trump
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 10:53 PM
Oct 2016

here's what we know about what wilson claims to know:

1) there are two pieces of oppo against trump out there that he is aware of that have yet to be released to the public
2) he doesn't always believe in oppo that can completely end a campaign, but this might do it
3) at least one of the oppo pieces is news that will especially hurt trump with a part of his base, make them say "whoa!"
4) he says it is not his information to release, but he knows what it is and that it is out there
5) several other gop strategists/insiders are also aware of this information including liz mair and frank luntz. when asked about how damaging the email story would be to hillary, luntz said on twitter that all she has to do is survive this week and let the story on trump drop.
6) he has been hinting that it will drop near the end of the week/final weekend.
7) both the clinton team and some reporters/media folks are aware of what this is, might explain why they aren't in a freakout mode over the comey bullshit. wilson complimented them for being very disciplined in how they are going to use the info on trump, showing patience and not in a hurry to get it out there.

the part about it hurting trump with his base really narrows it down for me. it's either a story about trump being not-so-pro-life or some other kind of really weird sex story (models/escorts/human trafficking). i'm not sure a definitive connection to russia/putin or a really nasty racist tape would hurt him too much with his base, they seem to be okay with those sorta things. though both would effectively nuke trump with the middle of the country.

this could just be mind games with the trump supporters that he loathes but not sure why he'd stake his rep on it and get other conservatives to vouch for him in the process. wilson and luntz both know about sleazy campaign tactics and messaging that resonates with conservative base voters, for them to think this could be a really big deal speaks volumes to me. i guess we'll just have to wait and see but i hope he's correct about this.

blm

(113,095 posts)
10. I think it's what politico is saying - There IS evidence of Trump's Russian alliances.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 01:29 PM
Oct 2016

Gee….wonder why Comey's staying silent. My take - he wants Trump to win WH, then, elevate Pence when Trump goes down.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
28. I keep saying this every chance I get, because people say well he's much more mature
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:17 AM
Oct 2016

and a real politician, etc, and I'm like, Oh sweet Lord above, the gov of Indiana is a repulsive fundamentalist who would enact such out of touch policies if he got in the White House with dumdum (Bush's Lesser).

Suburban Warrior

(405 posts)
13. Very cryptic
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 01:39 PM
Oct 2016

Rick Wilson ?@TheRickWilson 21m21 minutes ago

Rick Wilson Retweeted PJ

Sure, brand new account with a random alphanumeric name. How's Moscow?

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
16. It isn't HIS oppo dump
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 02:18 PM
Oct 2016

He just claims to know what it is and who has it.

He also said this morning that it is NOT related to the child rape lawsuit in NY (which is being ignored by the mainstream media anyway).

And that's the thing: if there is no tape and/or it doesn't involve sex or him saying the N-word, or there are not documents to back it all up, then don't be surprised if it only turns out to be a 1-2 day news story.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
18. Wilson responds ...
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 03:01 PM
Oct 2016

PseudonymousHominid ?@PseudonymousRex 18h18 hours ago
@TheRickWilson Also, if the Clinton team has this stuff, wouldn't now be the time to drop it?

Rick WilsonVerified account
?@TheRickWilson
@PseudonymousRex Nope. Think about it for a minute. 10 days left.

see https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/792211651449724928

MistakenLamb

(537 posts)
19. he is just trolling people to get more looks at McMullin
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 03:10 PM
Oct 2016

its obvious he likes the attention and is basking in it

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
20. still, timing is important....
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 09:27 PM
Oct 2016

Don't want perfectly good meat to get ignored because of the world series. Let the cubbies have their shot in peace.

I'm not saying there is something, just that there are good times snd bad times to release it for max impact.

Tom Rivers

(459 posts)
22. if they have something up their sleeve then it's smart to let the email story burn out first
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 09:47 PM
Oct 2016

there isn't a whole lot of THERE there, no direct link to hillary, the media will slowly but surely stop their freakout, and the comey overreach/trying to influence election narrative is starting to gain some steam. when that happens, POUNCE on trump mid-week and let whatever it is be the big story leading into the final weekend. at least that's how i would play it.

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
23. I think he is just messing with Dems...the other day
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 09:49 PM
Oct 2016

he tweeted if the Republicans and yelling at him in the morning and Dems at night then he is doing something right. I don't think he likes Trump or Hillary. He likes McMullen (the 3rd party candidate?)

Tom Rivers

(459 posts)
33. a #NeverTrump gop strategist
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 01:47 AM
Oct 2016

he's working on the evan mcmullin independent campaign and wants him to win, but at the very least wants to ensure that trump doesn't. he's been on the last word and all in numerous times and for the last few weeks has been hinting at knowing about two pieces of information about trump that have yet to be made public. the other night when someone on twitter asked him if oppo was still coming he responded "Out of my hands. " which makes me think it's a bit of a double meaning, that it was in his possession but has now been passed on to someone else to publicly leak.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
36. Rick Wilson, Evan M.. ect
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 04:57 PM
Oct 2016

I have huge policy differences with them but I still respect them and look forward to disagreements and debates with them. I honestly hope they can take hold of GOP and build on their values and beat Trumpism.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
37. I've seen a dozen threads on Trump's ties to Russia in the last couple of hours
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 07:15 PM
Oct 2016

Is this the November Surprise Wilson was hinting at?

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