2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFess up Rick Wilson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We know you have something on Trump, so release the Kraken. The big question is, does Hillary's campaign have the same info? I am betting they do.
budkin
(6,716 posts)It would be lost among football today.
Farmgirl1961
(1,494 posts)I agree....it's time to get the Trump stuff out there!
MineralMan
(146,331 posts)mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)Is a mythological monster.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)lapucelle
(18,337 posts)The kraken is a mythical, octopus-like sea monster.
getagrip_already
(14,838 posts)In ancient Greek mythology. Once released, it couldn't be stopped except by the gods (or demigods) themselves.
It usually left quite a mess. Not easy on the furnishings.
OhioBlue
(5,126 posts)a reference to "The Lego Movie"!
Zorro
(15,749 posts)BTW, what an awesome movie!
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,212 posts)mucifer
(23,569 posts)Farmgirl1961
(1,494 posts)Or maybe it is!!!
kimbutgar
(21,195 posts)It might be against Hillary.
moonscape
(4,673 posts)Tom Rivers
(459 posts)here's what we know about what wilson claims to know:
1) there are two pieces of oppo against trump out there that he is aware of that have yet to be released to the public
2) he doesn't always believe in oppo that can completely end a campaign, but this might do it
3) at least one of the oppo pieces is news that will especially hurt trump with a part of his base, make them say "whoa!"
4) he says it is not his information to release, but he knows what it is and that it is out there
5) several other gop strategists/insiders are also aware of this information including liz mair and frank luntz. when asked about how damaging the email story would be to hillary, luntz said on twitter that all she has to do is survive this week and let the story on trump drop.
6) he has been hinting that it will drop near the end of the week/final weekend.
7) both the clinton team and some reporters/media folks are aware of what this is, might explain why they aren't in a freakout mode over the comey bullshit. wilson complimented them for being very disciplined in how they are going to use the info on trump, showing patience and not in a hurry to get it out there.
the part about it hurting trump with his base really narrows it down for me. it's either a story about trump being not-so-pro-life or some other kind of really weird sex story (models/escorts/human trafficking). i'm not sure a definitive connection to russia/putin or a really nasty racist tape would hurt him too much with his base, they seem to be okay with those sorta things. though both would effectively nuke trump with the middle of the country.
this could just be mind games with the trump supporters that he loathes but not sure why he'd stake his rep on it and get other conservatives to vouch for him in the process. wilson and luntz both know about sleazy campaign tactics and messaging that resonates with conservative base voters, for them to think this could be a really big deal speaks volumes to me. i guess we'll just have to wait and see but i hope he's correct about this.
blm
(113,095 posts)Gee .wonder why Comey's staying silent. My take - he wants Trump to win WH, then, elevate Pence when Trump goes down.
getagrip_already
(14,838 posts)Or a scj. He could name his post.
wisteria
(19,581 posts)Divine Discontent
(21,056 posts)and a real politician, etc, and I'm like, Oh sweet Lord above, the gov of Indiana is a repulsive fundamentalist who would enact such out of touch policies if he got in the White House with dumdum (Bush's Lesser).
Suburban Warrior
(405 posts)Rick Wilson ?@TheRickWilson 21m21 minutes ago
Rick Wilson Retweeted PJ
Sure, brand new account with a random alphanumeric name. How's Moscow?
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Campaign and press have it
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)He just claims to know what it is and who has it.
He also said this morning that it is NOT related to the child rape lawsuit in NY (which is being ignored by the mainstream media anyway).
And that's the thing: if there is no tape and/or it doesn't involve sex or him saying the N-word, or there are not documents to back it all up, then don't be surprised if it only turns out to be a 1-2 day news story.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)PseudonymousHominid ?@PseudonymousRex 18h18 hours ago
@TheRickWilson Also, if the Clinton team has this stuff, wouldn't now be the time to drop it?
Rick WilsonVerified account
?@TheRickWilson
@PseudonymousRex Nope. Think about it for a minute. 10 days left.
see https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/792211651449724928
MistakenLamb
(537 posts)its obvious he likes the attention and is basking in it
getagrip_already
(14,838 posts)Don't want perfectly good meat to get ignored because of the world series. Let the cubbies have their shot in peace.
I'm not saying there is something, just that there are good times snd bad times to release it for max impact.
Tom Rivers
(459 posts)there isn't a whole lot of THERE there, no direct link to hillary, the media will slowly but surely stop their freakout, and the comey overreach/trying to influence election narrative is starting to gain some steam. when that happens, POUNCE on trump mid-week and let whatever it is be the big story leading into the final weekend. at least that's how i would play it.
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)he tweeted if the Republicans and yelling at him in the morning and Dems at night then he is doing something right. I don't think he likes Trump or Hillary. He likes McMullen (the 3rd party candidate?)
emulatorloo
(44,186 posts)helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)emulatorloo
(44,186 posts)2naSalit
(86,798 posts)Tom Rivers
(459 posts)he's working on the evan mcmullin independent campaign and wants him to win, but at the very least wants to ensure that trump doesn't. he's been on the last word and all in numerous times and for the last few weeks has been hinting at knowing about two pieces of information about trump that have yet to be made public. the other night when someone on twitter asked him if oppo was still coming he responded "Out of my hands. " which makes me think it's a bit of a double meaning, that it was in his possession but has now been passed on to someone else to publicly leak.
tableturner
(1,684 posts)getagrip_already
(14,838 posts)hopefully there is a fuse burning. I'm getting impatient here........
fun n serious
(4,451 posts)I have huge policy differences with them but I still respect them and look forward to disagreements and debates with them. I honestly hope they can take hold of GOP and build on their values and beat Trumpism.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)Is this the November Surprise Wilson was hinting at?