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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:38 PM Oct 2016

In a tirade against renewables, Trump claims wind power ‘kills all the birds’

Crazy even for him? Nah...

https://thinkprogress.org/donald-trump-wind-kills-all-the-eagles-bd4acf3264d#.naea9sir7

In a tirade against renewables, Trump claims wind power ‘kills all the birds’
“Thousands of birds are lying on the ground. And the eagle.”


When it comes to renewable energy, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump is just really concerned about the eagles.

“{Wind power} kills all the birds,” Trump told 2012 Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain on the latter’s radio show Tuesday. “Thousands of birds are lying on the ground. And the eagle. You know, certain parts of California — they’ve killed so many eagles. You know, they put you in jail if you kill an eagle. And yet these windmills [{kill{ them by the hundreds.”

Trump also told Cain that solar and wind are “very, very expensive” and “not working on a large-scale.” And he criticized the way wind turbines look, calling the windmills in Palm Springs, California a “junkyard.” (This is not the case, as Grist points out in their fact-check of Trump’s claims.)

“Thousands of birds are lying on the ground. And the eagle. You know, certain parts of California — they’ve killed so many eagles.”

“They have all these different companies and each one is made by a different group from, all from China and from Germany, by the way — not from here,” said Trump, who often sells products made in other countries. “And you look at all these windmills. Half of them are broken. They’re rusting and rotting. You know, you’re driving into Palm Springs, California, and it looks like a poor man’s version of Disneyland. It’s the worst thing you’ve ever seen.”
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In a tirade against renewables, Trump claims wind power ‘kills all the birds’ (Original Post) babylonsister Oct 2016 OP
well, we do have to be careful not to use up all the wind. unblock Oct 2016 #2
Haha! babylonsister Oct 2016 #4
I have been told by people who are not right wing nut cases PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2016 #3
So do tall buildings and airplanes jberryhill Oct 2016 #9
^^ this ^^. . . . n/t annabanana Oct 2016 #14
Hell, during the spring, it is common for birds to hit my office window and kill themselves. tonyt53 Oct 2016 #27
From the inside or the outside? jberryhill Oct 2016 #29
That is why you put the bird feeder whistler162 Oct 2016 #40
And cats! n/t moonscape Oct 2016 #39
Tell them coal and oli kill millions of human beings. pangaia Oct 2016 #20
I'd have been impressed if he'd mentioned the door buzzards, too pinboy3niner Oct 2016 #5
And the flying turbine blades. nt msanthrope Oct 2016 #16
Don't forget the screaming coyotes... sweetloukillbot Oct 2016 #23
Well, oil kills dinosaurs! Kablooie Oct 2016 #6
The ignorant dumb fuck. pangaia Oct 2016 #7
Dingdingding shenmue Oct 2016 #10
Renewables just passed coal as the largest source of new electricity worldwide pangaia Oct 2016 #17
Post removed Post removed Oct 2016 #8
"And the eagle"? Are we down to only one of them? Ken Burch Oct 2016 #11
And that's why Holland has no birds!!!! JoePhilly Oct 2016 #12
LOL.... Grassy Knoll Oct 2016 #18
the lampost has what I do believe to be bird shite on it... Grey Lemercier Oct 2016 #41
Those are the downy remains of slaughtered seagulls by that infernal contraption jberryhill Oct 2016 #43
Very few birds are killed by windmills Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #13
And then there is this jberryhill Oct 2016 #30
HAHAHAHAAHAHA! Trump you are such a fool. If you weren't in a position of potential power The Wielding Truth Oct 2016 #15
He's a tout for the coal companies BSdetect Oct 2016 #19
He's a moron in so many ways. Dem2 Oct 2016 #21
Kill the birds, TrumpPence a day... Blue Owl Oct 2016 #25
Got it....😎 pangaia Oct 2016 #36
And solar is draining the sun! ohnoyoudidnt Oct 2016 #26
Cats kill billions of birds each year (between 1.4-3.7 billion estimated)... manicraven Oct 2016 #28
Sometimes birds will fly into a window saltpoint Oct 2016 #31
In my mind, I'm hearing Christopher Walken reading your post out loud. Ken Burch Oct 2016 #37
: ) Enjoyed that, Ken Burch. saltpoint Oct 2016 #42
Tide goes in, tide goes out...never a misunderstanding. (n/t) Moostache Oct 2016 #32
his buildings kill probably as many birds n/t LSK Oct 2016 #33
Whattaya bet Katrina Pierson saltpoint Oct 2016 #34
I wonder when the last time he DROVE into Palm Springs was. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2016 #38

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,861 posts)
3. I have been told by people who are not right wing nut cases
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:43 PM
Oct 2016

that wind power seriously kills lots of birds. As in thousands, maybe millions. Somehow I find that not to be completely believable. Certainly, whenever I drive by wind farms, I have never seen evidence of dead birds piled up around the windmills.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
20. Tell them coal and oli kill millions of human beings.
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 10:04 PM
Oct 2016

or the entire planet, for that matter

to say nothing of the wars fought over them...

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
7. The ignorant dumb fuck.
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:45 PM
Oct 2016

Talk about turning water into wine-----
This guy could turn a 1982 Chateau Lafite into black sludge.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
17. Renewables just passed coal as the largest source of new electricity worldwide
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:57 PM
Oct 2016

CROSS POST-----

It’s been a long run, coal, but your reign is over.

Renewable energy sources have passed coal as the largest new source of electricity in the world, according data released Tuesday by the International Energy Agency (IEA).

The transition of the world’s energy sources is critical for avoiding a 2°C rise in global temperatures. Coal, for instance, represented about a quarter of U.S. CO2 emissions in 2012.

Solar and wind account for almost two-thirds of the growth in renewables, which is coming from industrialized and developing nations alike.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028253944

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
13. Very few birds are killed by windmills
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:49 PM
Oct 2016

140 to 328 thousand a year. That is very few compared with at least 1.5 billion killed by cats, 6.8 Million killed by radio or cell towers, 600 million killed by flying into buildings or windows, and 200 million killed by cars in the US.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-many-birds-do-wind-turbines-really-kill-180948154/

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
15. HAHAHAHAAHAHA! Trump you are such a fool. If you weren't in a position of potential power
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:51 PM
Oct 2016

I could just write you off but there are actual people listening to you and they could actually believe you. Oh. what a cruel joke his candidacy is!

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
21. He's a moron in so many ways.
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 10:04 PM
Oct 2016

A couple of good quotes I found on FB about this:

"Among all the birds that ARE killed, about 99% of them are by houses, cats, cars, and smokestacks... so get lost... please."

and

"He's not wrong that bird deaths are still too high, but the industry is working hard on solutions. What's really going on here is he's still sore about the offshore turbines near his golf course in Scotland. He didn't care about birds then -- it was strictly aesthetic. Trump didn't want his view "marred." Since then, he's carried a grudge against windpower. He's just settling personal scores."

manicraven

(901 posts)
28. Cats kill billions of birds each year (between 1.4-3.7 billion estimated)...
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 10:51 PM
Oct 2016

Not buying that Trump cares about birds anyway!

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
31. Sometimes birds will fly into a window
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 11:02 PM
Oct 2016

on a building and be killed.

Wonder how many birds have died flying into one of Trump's bombastic skyscrapers?

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
37. In my mind, I'm hearing Christopher Walken reading your post out loud.
Thu Oct 27, 2016, 12:51 AM
Oct 2016

It's quite a sonic image.

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