2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumEarly voting shows there is no silent Trump vote
He will not outperform his poll numbers because you'd already see evidence of it. In fact just the opposite, it appears he is underperforming.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)and the "shy to show" they support Hillary lack of signs, I wonder if this phenomenon doesn't exist more for Democrats.
Proud liberal 80
(4,167 posts)Trump supporters love to show you who they are for
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)The media would be all over this if there were evidence that Trump was getting a lot of extra votes. There's a ton of data coming out of early voting and it all points to Hillary easily outperforming 2012 Obama so far.
And more than that, a larger % of the vote will be early this cycle so the data is more significant. And Hilllary has a much better team of experts analyzing the data to help her team adjust on the fly. These are the expert pollsters of which Trump has none.
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)Based on the GOP primary polls and results that matched pretty closely.
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)I think there is a good chance that some of his supporters are nothing more than internet trolls/keyboard jockeys who can't get off their computers long enough to go vote. Others may be saying they support Trump to family and friends who support him but really intend to vote for Clinton.
That being said...I wish she would put out a statement about what she will do about the rising cost of Obamacare because that is going to help Trump and hurt her if she doesn't speak up soon.
Pook99
(7 posts)It is crucial to not lose votes, but also crucial for her chances in Arizona where the cost is going up extremely high with only a single payer of blue cross.
Pook99
(7 posts)Not sure it is surprising though, as like Trump, many of them are blow hards with big mouths.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)the good side overperforms.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)That a quarter of his rally attendees are either not registered or prevented from voting for a felony(which I actually disagree with).
And once it becomes apparent they are losing they will lose interest. Or just too lazy.
I voted today in a conservative area of Florida and the lines were long. But there were a huge number of minorities and a surprising number were women with young girls. Only 3 red shirts and they were old and seemed bitter. For the record I am old but not at all bitter!
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)When he was here, I know several rational Dems who attended his rally just to take in the freak show. Really a lot of sight seers at his rallies. Almost went myself just to see crazy, but then I thought, this is not the type of rally you went to be shown at inbyhe future if things get out of hand in this country.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)They don't have enough self control to be silent.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)when compared to the polling, so it would not be a surprise if it continues in the GE.
In 2012, Romney had a mediocre ground game, but it was much better than Trumps almost non-existent ground game. Clinton also inherited Obamas ground game, and Obama outperformed polls by 2-3% in 2012 because of his superior ground game. I can only imagine HRC will outperform polls by even more. Possibly 4-5%?
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)If what we are hearing about the ground games is true, Hillary should out perform the polls in most of the swing states by 3-5 points. They say a good ground game will get you 2-3 points extra, well that has to be higher when you're going against a campaign with almost no ground game and almost no polling.
The fact Trump spent more on hats than on polling is pretty damning.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)the best hats. Made in China, too!
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)and 400 EV's!