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Early voting shows there is no silent Trump vote (Original Post) Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 OP
With the number of IN YOUR FACE Trump signs Dem2 Oct 2016 #1
Agree Proud liberal 80 Oct 2016 #3
The silent Trump vote is the one that will stay home and pout. nt Xipe Totec Oct 2016 #2
If there were evidence Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #4
Kornacki said the same yesterday DeminPennswoods Oct 2016 #5
Aren't his rally numbers shrinking? It may be that he's lost a lot of support NoGoodNamesLeft Oct 2016 #6
She really needs to address the rise in Obamacare immediately.... Pook99 Oct 2016 #9
Glad to hear Pook99 Oct 2016 #7
If anything, we are seeing a reverse Brexit vote where Dawson Leery Oct 2016 #8
I would bet GulfCoast66 Oct 2016 #10
I knew of several Dems who attended Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #11
Trump voters are the loudest people on the planet. Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2016 #12
He has underperformed in the primaries NewJeffCT Oct 2016 #13
Agree Johnny2X2X Oct 2016 #15
they're great hats, though NewJeffCT Oct 2016 #16
If she leads by 6.5, then add 3.5 for ground game, she wins by 10 points Dawson Leery Oct 2016 #17
I wish he'd get less votes than he has followers on Twitter. I detest him & his ilk. grossproffit Oct 2016 #14

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
1. With the number of IN YOUR FACE Trump signs
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 08:21 PM
Oct 2016

and the "shy to show" they support Hillary lack of signs, I wonder if this phenomenon doesn't exist more for Democrats.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
4. If there were evidence
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 08:26 PM
Oct 2016

The media would be all over this if there were evidence that Trump was getting a lot of extra votes. There's a ton of data coming out of early voting and it all points to Hillary easily outperforming 2012 Obama so far.

And more than that, a larger % of the vote will be early this cycle so the data is more significant. And Hilllary has a much better team of experts analyzing the data to help her team adjust on the fly. These are the expert pollsters of which Trump has none.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
6. Aren't his rally numbers shrinking? It may be that he's lost a lot of support
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 08:29 PM
Oct 2016

I think there is a good chance that some of his supporters are nothing more than internet trolls/keyboard jockeys who can't get off their computers long enough to go vote. Others may be saying they support Trump to family and friends who support him but really intend to vote for Clinton.

That being said...I wish she would put out a statement about what she will do about the rising cost of Obamacare because that is going to help Trump and hurt her if she doesn't speak up soon.

Pook99

(7 posts)
9. She really needs to address the rise in Obamacare immediately....
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 08:49 PM
Oct 2016

It is crucial to not lose votes, but also crucial for her chances in Arizona where the cost is going up extremely high with only a single payer of blue cross.

Pook99

(7 posts)
7. Glad to hear
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 08:37 PM
Oct 2016

Not sure it is surprising though, as like Trump, many of them are blow hards with big mouths.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
10. I would bet
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 08:55 PM
Oct 2016

That a quarter of his rally attendees are either not registered or prevented from voting for a felony(which I actually disagree with).

And once it becomes apparent they are losing they will lose interest. Or just too lazy.

I voted today in a conservative area of Florida and the lines were long. But there were a huge number of minorities and a surprising number were women with young girls. Only 3 red shirts and they were old and seemed bitter. For the record I am old but not at all bitter!

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
11. I knew of several Dems who attended
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:01 PM
Oct 2016

When he was here, I know several rational Dems who attended his rally just to take in the freak show. Really a lot of sight seers at his rallies. Almost went myself just to see crazy, but then I thought, this is not the type of rally you went to be shown at inbyhe future if things get out of hand in this country.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
13. He has underperformed in the primaries
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:06 PM
Oct 2016

when compared to the polling, so it would not be a surprise if it continues in the GE.

In 2012, Romney had a mediocre ground game, but it was much better than Trump’s almost non-existent ground game. Clinton also inherited Obama’s ground game, and Obama outperformed polls by 2-3% in 2012 because of his superior ground game. I can only imagine HRC will outperform polls by even more. Possibly 4-5%?

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
15. Agree
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:11 PM
Oct 2016

If what we are hearing about the ground games is true, Hillary should out perform the polls in most of the swing states by 3-5 points. They say a good ground game will get you 2-3 points extra, well that has to be higher when you're going against a campaign with almost no ground game and almost no polling.

The fact Trump spent more on hats than on polling is pretty damning.

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