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Related: About this forumGrover Norquist warns Dems, GOP: The anti-tax pledge will hold
The anti-tax zealot says Republicans will not cave, and won't be fooled by Democrats into raising taxes
BY DAVID DALEY
Grover Norquist has a warning for anyone who thinks the influential anti-tax advocate has lost power in Washington.
No one is caving, the head of the Americans for Tax Reform told the Wall Street Journal, in a wide-ranging weekend interview.
Norquist who built his power by getting hundreds of House Republicans and Congressional candidates to sign a pledge vowing to never raise taxes has been perceived to be on the defensive since House Speaker John Boehner and even Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell suggested they would be open to new revenues in a compromise to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff.
In the weeks since the election, as talks centered around a compromise, fear of violating Norquists pledge appeared to diminish. But Norquist insists that the power dynamic has not changed, despite the re-election of President Obama and the apparent willingness of the GOP leadership to work with him to head off mandatory defense spending cuts and the expiration of the Bush tax cuts.
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more:
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/24/grover_norquist_warns_dems_gop_the_anti_tax_pledge_will_hold/
lunatica
(53,410 posts)As far as I know he's never felt the need before.
I take this as a hopeful sign of Norquist knowing he's losing his grip on power and is getting desperate to spin his message personally for a change. I smell the slightly nauseating stench of growing desperation.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)He has overstayed his welcome.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)Vogon_Glory
(9,131 posts)I think that Grover's power base might finally be crumbling. It's not just those of us who see Norquist as a class warrior leading many of the troops of the top one percent and those of us lesser folk who depend on government pensions who worry about the effects of political blackmail by a sociopathic whack-job on their pensions and medical assistance, but I believe that many less-reactionary people might FINALLY be wondering if Norquist's notions might be dragging the US from the ranks of the top-ranked countries into something resembling Argentina or post-Soviet Russia.
Even some of the "bidnessmen" who have been reflexively funding the GOP over the last few decades might have woken up to the point where they've noticed the financial crises abroad and that Norquist/Tea Party antics might bring the same sort of (stuff) home to our own shores.
I think that keeping the federal government solvent is a patriotic position. Don't you?
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are correct, I call him the little Napoleon. He is delusional about his power. He is forgetting the other ten ton gorilla in the room. That ten ton gorilla are the people that elected the Democrats and President Obama which means us.
I would explain it to little Napoleon this way: The Republicans don't have to lift a finger and taxes will be raised. The reason why, is because that ten ton Gorilla is telling the Democrats and President Obama to let the tax cuts expire and Norquist's puppets will deal with the ten ton gorilla in the next election. We will see who will pay if they didn't get the message.
We did not elect President Obama or any Democrats to cave in to you or your supporters. Seeing how Social Security, Obama care and Medicare are not in the cuts, you will lose the War in the end. Not only that, in the long term, your Party is in danger of becoming irrelevant, if you have not noticed. It only takes patience and a matter of time. You are mistaken , if you think the American people gave you some mandate, to cut their entitlements or safety net. The majority, did no such thing in November.
dballance
(5,756 posts)I think Grover needs to go fornicate with himself.
Tutonic
(2,522 posts)n/t
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 24, 2012, 04:05 PM - Edit history (1)
he man has to watch something other than FOX "news"
think
(11,641 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Fuck off...It's over!
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,437 posts)and remember, he only cares about CORPORATE TAXES. If rates go up on middle-or-lower income people, he's perfectly fine with THAT.
John2
(2,730 posts)many in the middleclass and poor say go over the cliff. Recoup all the money and return some of it to entitlements. Grover can't do a thing about it. The part you don't return, pay down the Deficit. We'll begin kicking them out of office, starting 2014, if they don't want to compromise and take our offer. We dictate the terms period. Take it or leave it, your move.
aquart
(69,014 posts)He needs to live under a Red Cross blanket on Long Island.
tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Texin
(2,597 posts)races would like to have a little chat the Grover about now. If the idjits don't realize that sticking with Norquist will all but cement the Dems retaking the House in 2016, then let them lick his posturing ass all they want.
Beaverhausen
(24,472 posts)Who is he and why does anyone care what he says or who took his pledge?
rock
(13,218 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,713 posts)Zorro
(15,749 posts)if those nitwits knew he's married to a Muslim woman, and reportedly converted to that faith to receive the blessings of her family.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)they are trying to drive him out of CPAC. I can't think of the guy's name leading the charge but Michelle Bachman is one of his followers.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)flailing in the air- throwing a real, honest to gosh soiled brat temper tantrum.
WeekendWarrior
(1,437 posts)Retrograde
(10,158 posts)I don't recall Norquist being elected to anything: why does he have so much power? And why don't Democrats run against him more?
CBHagman
(16,987 posts)That should be our talking point. "No one elected Grover Norquist."
fizzgig
(24,146 posts)Blue Owl
(50,505 posts)And it hath stunk.
BeyondGeography
(39,380 posts)Drale
(7,932 posts)that they fear to break Norquiest's pledge? He has no real power and he defiantly has no legal authority.
BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)If they won't sign his pledge, he can find a fundie teabagger who will.
tblue37
(65,488 posts)HowHasItComeToThis
(3,566 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)and take your 'Grover-Groupies' republicans with you.
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)... goodbye!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)Fuck you Grover!
tblue37
(65,488 posts)the cabal of insanely rich SOBs who will fund the primary challeges to any Republican who doesn't toe the anti-tax line. The rich jerks also coopt Republicans (and many Dems!) by dangling lucrative positions in front of them for when they are no longer in elected office.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)ancianita
(36,137 posts)This is the most evil, arrogant posture of any individual in these times. How can it "hold."
This isn't about "caving" to a "pledge," and he's a total idiot to say that It's about the "elected" pooling the electorate's tax resources to do what's best for the entire population, not his fraternity of pledges and their central command. Fuck this guy.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)From Reagan to Newt's Contract with America, Norquist was there. But he risks irrelevancy since the Repubs lost back to back Presidential elections. Good riddance. I think his influence is going to wane. If Repubs keep losing, why listen to someone leading you to lose?
Arkana
(24,347 posts)and we're taking down the statues to have them cleaned.
Mz Pip
(27,453 posts)Maybe Grover will hold his breath until he turns blue.