2016 Postmortem
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The born again evangelical right wingnut contingent of my family has completely shifted focus. They've stopped praying for a Trump win and started prayer that Hillary will get right with the Lord before she takes office.
I kid not.
There is also a conspiracy theory from one particular sister in law's kinfolk that the devil put Trump in as the Republican nominee so he could be sure to throw the race for Hillary. (as in the 2 are in cahoots).
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Laf.La.Dem.
(2,944 posts)greymattermom
(5,754 posts)She's probably already right with the lord
Turbineguy
(37,364 posts)That puts her right next to shitkickers according to Hedley Lamarr.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Without smiling!
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The religious right figures you are another branch of ISIS
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)if there are a lot more who do not, the real ones are real and imo deserve respect. Many radiate the calm serenity of people who never wake up in the middle of the night bothered about big discrepancies between what they have done and what they should do.
Anyway, this is really, really good news. If some feel a need for a "transition" justification, fine. But getting "right with the lord" is a megastep forward from doing the work of Satan. Was it that they really saw her for the first time at the debates?
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,135 posts)Line from Woody Allen's "Hannah and Her Sisters"
underpants
(182,868 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)A fellow evangelist co-worker of a friend who is a t-rump supporter recently said "I don't know now . . we have a pervert and a liar running for president.
Hee hee . . .
Digger
(478 posts)we DO have "a pervert and a liar running for president". The other candidate is a classy, intelligent woman.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)JHB
(37,161 posts)Yeah, I know Digger beat me to the punch by 3 hours, but it'd be criminal to pass up a straight line like that.
herding cats
(19,566 posts)In the sense that the Republicans who voted for him were evil bigots and racist.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,879 posts)Have any of them, so far as you know, decided to vote for Hillary?
Hekate
(90,773 posts)jmho
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Tell them to open their red-letter Bible and do what Jesus says to do, and stop acting like they are better Christians than everyone else.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)+Mrs. Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian Betty, gotta tell ya, you remind me of my high school World History teacher(forgive me but she was a stoned FOX) and a bit of a snob cuz she was edjadicated in Frawnce and she wrote in this script writing that just reeked of, 'hey, can I help if I'm way better and smarter than all of you put together,' but don't get me wrong, she wasn't offensive or anything, just an obviously protected person from day one of her life
But I was so impressed cuz snobbish though she was, I guess, at the orphanage I was using clippers to trim grass from the public sidewalk outside the wall, and Lo I see her crossing the street prancing towards me, smiling and making me feel extra special that she would even bother to acknowledge me outside of class. She was waiting for her car to be repaired, yep it was a Peugot and the only garage in town for them. I was 15 at that time, and she was, oh, I'd say early 20s. She used to single me out and talk, yep small talk, OMG, I felt one day I'd just melt intothe floor, she made me feel so privileged and wonderful, and it mattered then cuz, we, from the home and all with major dysfunctionals.
McGuire was her name and she liked to toss out to class speaking her French, lotsa profanity, oddly enough, she was like mischevious, and man she sounded so sexy, and I tried to not think like that...but Biology ruled seemed like, mentally anyway. Weird was she was married to some really goofy guy(sorry, I'm likely a bit unfair on that cuz I wanted her all to myself)I mean how could I stay on the string of her good wishes to me with him occupying her attention. I don't think she felt pity or anything, but she offered if there was anything I needed and stuff, to let her know, she was just my first really older type more mature female, dare I say closest ever female friend, never a lover but we did talk and stuff and she was fond of teaching me what females were about and all, it's like she knew I was interested in the fairer sex, but really naive.
After that year, in Summer 1966 she moved back to France but before she left she really put it on thick about my great qualities and potentials and any girl would love to be with me as a friend or any kind of contact, wow, talk about inflating my ego, I suppose it's why I had a crush on her, though unneeded and I was really sad to lose her friendship, but I will never forget her, as in another I was crushed when she was gone, cuz she was like the best friend I ever had, and she made it clear she'd never place me in a compromising position to do with much other than light hugs, she was my friend. I wish everyone, guys at least could have had a close friend like her, we talked about everything.
She was also really the smartest person I ever knew, and after a bit, she didn't come off as primadonna-ish. I hated guys and their catcalls when they saw us talking.She was above all that Holla. BTW,what's a vajeene?And how'd I miss that part? I will view again for sure. Betty you are a laugh riot. Thanks from the bottom of my vajeene...uh, do I or can I have a vajeene?lol
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)so, hey, you could use that argument.
Actually she is a strong religious do-gooder somewhat like Jimmy Carter.
SunSeeker
(51,657 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)It's one reason black people love her.
Blue Idaho
(5,054 posts)We need at least two years of free college for all citizens. The first class they should all take is Logic and Critical Thinking. The Walmart generation can't be trusted with the fate of the last best democracy on earth in their hands.
Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)They are... Stupid too.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,209 posts)that can think critically. A shrinking middle class is working great for them. They like the bottom of the pyramid to be deep, letting us fight for crumbs amongst ourselves instead of turning on THEM.
Blue Idaho
(5,054 posts)That education is the only hope for a better America. A well informed public with a firm grasp of history can turn the tide against any enemy foreign or domestic.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,209 posts)I was a public school teacher for 9 years. I come from a family of educators. It makes me CRAZY when I hear about high stakes testing and voucher programs to take money out of public schools.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)a virtual quote machine
contrast him with to what his party has devolved into
from Lincoln to Godwin
whathehell
(29,082 posts)and it scares me. I like your idea about critical thinking and logiv, but I:m wondering if it might be better to teach it in high school, maybe in senior year. This ignorance is really hurting us as a country.
Blue Idaho
(5,054 posts)Students should be taught critical thinking, logic, and media literacy from a very early age. But I still like the idea of expecting students to continue on in their schooling. Especially if it's at least two years of public community or state college.
whathehell
(29,082 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Professionals are good at that.
The dinner showed her ability to adapt from competition to diplomacy.
Basket of adorables? Awww.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)I doubt Trump even believes in God at all.
sarge43
(28,942 posts)If it's not about him, can't be bother
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Such a bunch of suckers.
radical noodle
(8,012 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,257 posts)just don't make them pay for it
orwell
(7,775 posts)...I'll have to ask her next time I pray...
cannabis_flower
(3,765 posts)she's saying the Devil is in cahoots with Hillary and Donald is the tool.
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)Granted, Kaintuck is a border state but it still qualifies you as a Southerner.
As a fellow Southerner (Wilkinson County, Mississippi, great-great-garndson of slave owner), I empathize with you about your family.
For those of you who are not blessed to be Southerners, you need to understand that EVERY Southern family has at least one funny uncle, twisted sister, or batshit-crazy cousin. Some of us have entire branches of the family tree who have six toes on one foot and are the product of cousin marriage. I know. BELIEVE me . . . I know.
The theory about Trump and the devil is an interesting one I have not heard before . . . I'll run it by my biblethumping brother-in-law to see what he says about it.
KentuckyWoman
(6,690 posts)Oh how I needed your post on this fine Sunday morning.....awakened at 4am by a call from one of the twisted kinfolk to try and bring me to Jesus. Assumption made that since I think food and medicine rank higher on the list of things to buy than bombs I need more Jesus.
She's one of the 6 toe on each foot variety. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for a reminder of perspective.
MH1
(17,600 posts)Most of 'em ain't talking much right now. (Not about Trump, anyway.)
There's one that's still on the Trump train for sure but I'm writing that one off as a hopeless case.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)So the people who call themselves the religious right would be exposed as total frauds and no followers of Christ at all, huh?
safeinOhio
(32,714 posts)He gave us a perfect example of how not to act. Thank you Lord.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Vote!
This race will not be decided by invisible sky beings.
God is not an excuse for ignorance and hate.
manicraven
(901 posts)Hekate
(90,773 posts)I used to pray for Dubya, too. Something along the lines of "Please may he be stricken with sudden enlightenment and the full knowledge of what he is doing."
Rex
(65,616 posts)I knew fundys would abandon this guy, he has a cult of followers and that is it.
Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)I'm not praying for her to get right with the Lord, because I believe she already is. Instead, I'm praying some RW nutcase with a gun doesn't try to take a shot at her. That is my biggest fear about Hillary becoming President.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)at FB, and ended up in the same place you talk about. Some of these "prophets" on youtube were hysterically funny, but the comments sections were horrifying.
One guy tripped up and lost his place in the script - or as it was supposed to be, his direct line to God, as he was speaking. He actually stopped, held his hand to his ear after he tripped up, and started the line again - and said "I'm just hearing this now" Considering everything he was saying was already supposed to be a live feed from God, it was a hoot.
Retired George
(332 posts)He decided to transform into a human and run himself! (Any demonologist will tell you: the Devil has ALWAYS had problems with hair.)
wordpix
(18,652 posts)They early on said they're not voting for Trump and my bro is voting Hillary. Not sure about his wife and grown kids, tho
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)between the two. And this is from people on the left!
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)Ilsa
(61,697 posts)treating her neighbor as she would like to be treated, and helping her fellow citizens whenever she can. It's likely a huge point of philosophical connection between her and her Jesuit-educated VP pick.
I'll put her Christian values up against Franklin Graham's any day, and Trump isn't within measuring distance, he's so amoral.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Mine included.