2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumTrump's meltdown is a perfect example of narcissistic injury, followed by narcissistic rage
The narcissistic injury factor was mentioned by Tony Schwartz, the real author of The Art of the Deal, in a tweet yesterday:
https://twitter.com/tonyschwartz/status/787100916952494080
The quotes below are from the Wikipedia article "Narcissistic rage and narcissistic injury":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_rage_and_narcissistic_injury
Narcissistic injury occurs when a narcissist feels that their hidden, 'true self' has been revealed. This may be the case when the narcissist has a "fall from grace", such as when their hidden behaviors or motivations are revealed, or when their importance is brought into question. Narcissistic injury is a cause of distress and can lead to dysregulation of behaviors as in narcissistic rage.
Narcissistic rage occurs on a continuum from instances of aloofness, and expression of mild irritation or annoyance, to serious outbursts, including violent attacks and murder.
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For Kohut, narcissistic rage is related to narcissists' need for total control of their environment, including "the need for revenge, for righting a wrong, for undoing a hurt by whatever means". It is an attempt by the narcissist to turn from a passive sense of victimization to an active role in giving pain to others, while at the same time attempting to rebuild their own (actually false) sense of self-worth. It may also involve self-protection and preservation, with rage serving to restore a sense of safety and power by destroying that which had threatened the narcissist.
Alternatively, according to Kohut, rages can be seen as a result of the shame at being faced with failure. Narcissistic rage is the uncontrollable and unexpected anger that results from a narcissistic injury a threat to a narcissist's self-esteem or worth. Rage comes in many forms, but all pertain to the same important thing: revenge. Narcissistic rages are based on fear and will endure even after the threat is gone.
To the narcissist, the rage is directed towards the person that they feel has slighted them; to other people, the rage is incoherent and unjust. This rage impairs their cognition, therefore impairing their judgment. During the rage they are prone to shouting, fact distortion and making groundless accusations. In his book The Analysis of the Self, Kohut explains that expressions caused by a sense of things not going the expected way blossom into rages, and narcissists may even search for conflict to find a way to alleviate pain or suffering.
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chillfactor
(7,576 posts)of t'rump.
napi21
(45,806 posts)recognize it in themselves."
I wonder what happens when a narcissist really loses, as in the Presidential Campaign? I'm sure there's something traumatic occurs after the rage meets its peak. I'm not sure I really want to find out either.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)experts say he may not be that devastated by the loss itself. Strange, but his only ideology is himself, seeing and being seen as a great man. A giant delusion that could possibly be supported in his self-indulgent mind as much by a noisy faction perhaps following him to another TV host job as to the oval office.
It's likely that this is all costing his current brand a lot of money. Probably not many developers will want to pay to put his name on their hotels, for instance, so that's likely to be a major stressor for him, more than losing the happy fantasy of asserting his authority over "the generals."
pangaia
(24,324 posts)ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)True_Blue
(3,063 posts)Like why he's riling up his base and getting ready to burn this Country to the ground if he doesn't win.
Hekate
(90,708 posts)I really wonder if Melania has plans to not be anywhere around when the votes are being tallied.
womanofthehills
(8,712 posts)I guess money is high on her list of priorities. I bet he barely lets her eat; if she gained 5 lbs she would be shamed.
Hekate
(90,708 posts)Shortly after Melania gave birth to Barron a visitor praised her figure and said she lost all her baby fat; to which The Donald, ever the gentleman, said no she had not.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Classic non-violent psychopath.
montana_hazeleyes
(3,424 posts)he's got lots of others ready and willing to perpetrate the violence.
highplainsdem
(48,993 posts)I always loved to fight, Trump told biographer Michael DAntonio, the author of Never Enough. All types of fights, including physical. Trump told DAntonio that when I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, Im basically the same. The temperament is not all that different.
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Still, Trump told The Washington Post, It was a tough school with a lot of drill sergeants. .?.?. And they were tough, and it was less politically correct than it is today. .?.?. You had to learn how to survive, essentially, with some of these guys. I learned discipline how to dish it out and otherwise.
Ted Levine, who roomed with Trump at the military academy, told NPR about the day when Trump messed up his bed. Levine said he responded by hitting Trump with a broomstick. He came back at me with his hands, Levine said, who was 4-11 at the time and Trump was 6-2. He was bigger than me. And it took three people to get him off me.
Think of that much of an assault by a guy who's 6'2" on one who's 4'11".
And there'es the assault on his first wife, which was provoked, reportedly, by something happening that was tied directly to his narcissistic pride about his hair:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-violence-of-donald-trump-w444012
womanofthehills
(8,712 posts)He has a rape case coming up and his first wife accused him of rape.
Bibliovore
(185 posts)...has likely curtailed his future chances for unreported, uncontested sexual assault. :p
True_Blue
(3,063 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)I learned how to set her off with a smile and a few innocent words. It was fun. My father and sister never figured out what was going on. I was in total control of that hag, and she despises me to this day.
This is all too familiar to me. I had a boss like this, too.
womanofthehills
(8,712 posts)Some of my favorites for the last few days - Hillary was in his space at the debate, Hillary needs to be drug tested before the next debate, Hillary is mean to woman - OMG!