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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:01 PM Oct 2016

Why the Russian Hacks of Hillary Clinton’s Campaign Should Reassure Us All

Joe Klein @JoeKlein TIME 7:07 AM ET

In the midst of our bountiful October harvest of Trump grotesqueries, the Russians and Julian Assange organized a WikiLeaks dump of private emails from the Clinton campaign. These revealed a shocking and scandalous fact about the former Secretary of State: she is a politician. Indeed, the documents represent one of the most reassuring moments of this calamitous campaign. The overwhelming impression is of the candidate’s and her staff’s competence and sanity–and something more: a refreshing sense of reality about the vagaries of politics.

The headline revelation came from one of Clinton’s paid speeches. Clinton said it was necessary for politicians to have a “public and private position” on many issues. Gotcha! And even though Clinton had difficulty defending herself on this in the second debate, she’s absolutely right. In one of his rare moments of candor earlier this year, Donald Trump agreed. He said his ludicrous tax-cut plan was an opening position that would be compromised–he might even back higher taxes–when negotiations began with Congress. This was deemed disastrous by conservative ideologues, and Trump quickly retreated from it. But he was, momentarily, speaking the truth.

Here’s how Clinton put it in that 2013 speech, and be prepared, I’m going to quote her at length: “Politics is like sausage being made. It is unsavory, and it always has been that way, but we usually end up where we need to be. But if everybody’s watching … all of the backroom discussions and the deals … then people get a little nervous, to say the least. So, you need both a public and a private position. And finally, I think–I believe in evidence-based decision making. I want to know what the facts are.” Clinton is speaking an essential, uncontroversial truth about how things work in a democracy. And yet, for much of the public–and too much of our media–her sentiments are perceived as shifty, further evidence that she can’t be trusted, as if a willingness to compromise were a sign of weakness, not a necessary strength.

As for the rest of the emails, there are the occasional screw-ups and embarrassing moments of candor, but–as with the WikiLeaks dump of the State Department’s diplomatic cables–the most striking thing about them is the careful, intelligent way in which the Clinton staff goes about the business of politics. There is substantive consternation about how to deal with Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren on Wall Street, a careful massaging of where to come down on Warren’s proposal for a new Glass-Steagall law to regulate banking. Clinton and her advisers believe that Sanders is being too simplistic, that they have an equally tough but more nuanced position–as indeed they did–and they worry about how to communicate that difference. Watching the deliberations unfold, I found myself thinking, Boy, Assange has done a public service. It’s good to know how policy develops in a political campaign.

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http://time.com/4529399/why-the-russian-hacks-of-hillary-clintons-campaign-should-reassure-us-all/

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joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
1. The emails have shown one thing: competency.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:06 PM
Oct 2016

All emails relating to the Democrats. That's what scares them so much.

Tanuki

(14,919 posts)
2. Can you imagine if several years of e-mails from the would-be-groper-in- chief, and everyone on
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:11 PM
Oct 2016

his staff, were hacked and released? The content would be grotesque and appalling, to put it mildly. I would guess those e-mails have in fact been obtained and are being cached by Putin and company for future blackmailing or punishment if the parties in question step out of line.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
5. He said he doesn't use 'personal' email. I bet he uses fake names for those emails.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:19 PM
Oct 2016

I bet he uses fake names for those 'personal' email accounts and 'devices' used.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
3. exactly my take on it!
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:14 PM
Oct 2016

whole bunch of nothing there... unless you really like to watch sausage being made

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
4. How come 'Russians' never hack Republicans? Do Ds need to 'donate' to 'wikileaks' for those files?
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:15 PM
Oct 2016

How much of a donation does it take to 'wikileaks' to buy a file? I'm sure he has to kick back some to the hackers, they're not stealing files for free are they?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Yes. I keep wondering how many people realize
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:45 PM
Oct 2016

that most are just insights into well run campaigns and that, even with that, very little of rises above gossip level? None of the real political venal corruption so many are sure exists has ever been revealed.

At a smaller but serious level there is that supposed Donna Bazile email allegedly leaking a debate question to Hillary, but it seems so out-of-normal unethical and such a dangerous thing to do for both sides that I'm waiting for the results of investigation. Bazile says the email was about another event Hillary spoke at before the debate; did Bazile know at that point that a similar question relating to the same subject would be asked at the debate? And if she did, would someone in the H camp be in on this or would Bazile be acting alone? Or was this email tampered with by the Kremlin?

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