2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI feel bad for Mika. Bernicle asked if she had been the victim of physical sexual harassment and she
said she had. She had been quiet during the report on Trump's sex advances on women that recently surfaced. But then she talked about her own experiences in emotional terms. I feel certain this was a planned moment but she was nonetheless genuine in her retelling what happened to her as a young aide on Capital hill.
I really related to her as I know well those experiences as a young woman. I never talked about it because I was afraid I wouldn't be believed or made to feel that I did something wrong.
So glad she had the courage to say what she did.
boston bean
(36,222 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)recalling it. My trigger was probably was probably downside to my extremely beautiful granddaughter going away for her first year of college. Despite my pride at seeing her go off to college, I suppose I felt real fear that what happened to me would happen to her. In my case, my attacker was to soon die in a motorcycle accident (he was a college classmate). I was glad he was dead and gone because he could never do that to me again...
annabanana
(52,791 posts)if HE were one of Trumps latest accusers .. HE would have spoken up with the Megan Kelly dust-up.. HE thinks they may have been coordinated to come forward later in the campaign..
HE doesn't get that hearing that piece of shit say he "never" acted on those despicable words would be what would make these poor women expose themselves to everything they'll be hit with..
Mika has been squirming in her chair all morning over this. She was a Page on the Hill when she was a kid. You KNOW she's been subjected to unwanted attention from skeevy pervs.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Support the veracity of the latest claims.
I'm ready for her to stand by these women's decisions to not come out publicly until now. She doesn't have to swear that she believes they are true; just help explain why women, expecially young women, have valid, life-altering reasons to not accuse at the time the crime is committed.
pamela
(3,469 posts)Those stories were being told in the context of "how dare these men condemn Trump when they are pigs, too." The whole segment was about how poor Donald is getting hit with this now, as if women haven't been saying these things about him for over a year. It made me literally sick to my stomach and I'm not one of those people who uses "literally" when I mean "figuratively."
boston bean
(36,222 posts)Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)Men do not get to say what they would have done in that situation. Because men WILL NEVER be a woman subjected to any type of sexual assault, exploitation, humiliation, degradation, etc.
So no, Joe, you don't get a say because you will never understand. Don't even try. You insult all women when you do.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)It took over 40 years for him to remember it, it was so painful. No one believed him at the time, his family swept it under the rug, and he felt enormous shame going forward, causing him to repress it until recently.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)I am the last person on earth to discount the trauma of sexual assault against men. And I believe it is as much, if not more traumatizing for a man. My brother and I were both molested for years by a family member. I know what it did to me and saw what he has struggled with his entire life. He even spent time in jail for a while and I believe the trauma directly contributed to the poor choices he made when he was young. We Now are both doing well these days despite the scars that have been ripped wide open this past month.
To be clear, someone like Joe S. has no right to say what they would do in such a situation. It was sanctimonious and really pissed me off.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Last edited Fri Oct 14, 2016, 05:06 PM - Edit history (1)
correlation to his childhood assault. His pain was transferred to his music. He used to play in clubs here in New Haven but had to give it up to "earn a real living" and he became a plumber. Recently he retired but had to give up his two guitars because he has arthritis in his hands.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)I was in band and orchestra beginning in elementary school and was a music major. Music was my sanctuary. I played cello, flute, oboe and a few other instruments. After a severely broken wrist, I wasn't able to continue playing. But, I understand exactly where your friend is coming from.
These days, I'm a pastry chef and I get the same feeling when baking or decorating a wedding cake. Full concentration on something enjoyable....while playing music in the background like Adele.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Requiem, that I go to after experiencing great loss and trauma in my family...
rurallib
(62,426 posts)I feel a piece of my gut get ripped with empathy every time I hear one of the Trump stories.
I was assaulted by a prominent clergyman. No one believed my stories and they were suppressed until the Spotlight stories came out.
I can't say I know what these women have gone through, but I do know the feeling of helplessness.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)said he would have kept it hidden and he has told me "I owe you a debt of gratitude...at last it's all out of me to see and deal with..." and I thought it was a very tender moment...kind of a bond that nobody wants but has nonetheless...
vlyons
(10,252 posts)of a 13 yr old girl? Or the law suit for fraud against Trump for his phoney University? Hypocrites every one. Those 2 law suits alone should be enough reason for pause before endorsing anyone. Republicans are cowards.
DarthDem
(5,256 posts). . . but given these experiences, and her near-certain ability to get a job elsewhere, why is she carrying Trump's water on a daily basis, AND co-hosting (in name only, of course) a show with someone with his own questionable past with women?
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)rurallib
(62,426 posts)also noted for treating women like objects? Why would she dump her life for him?
Please correct me if I am wrong.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Demsrule86
(68,594 posts)Most women including me...(read my journal postings) have been sexually harassed at work.