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We get it, Joe S.: You think we're hypocritical about Bill Clinton v. Donald Trump (Original Post) nixonwasbetterthanW Oct 2016 OP
Joker is really stretching his tiny mind these days. BSdetect Oct 2016 #1
I thoiught he & Mika looked shell shocked & Mika was about to cry. EV_Ares Oct 2016 #2
She refused to opine on the veracity of the latest accusations, Ilsa Oct 2016 #6
I agree, cannot really figure it out but both of them were really different. I broke down to watch EV_Ares Oct 2016 #16
I don't think Mika is upset that HRC is winning Ilsa Oct 2016 #18
Well, just listening to her. She keeps on & on saying Clinton needs to address about her attacks on EV_Ares Oct 2016 #19
I think she's overcompensating. Ilsa Oct 2016 #20
I didn't know Bill Clinton was running for president? NewJeffCT Oct 2016 #3
The leading critics of Bill Clinton were guilty of the same offense as they attacked Clinton. bulloney Oct 2016 #11
exactly and as usual the hypocrites are the Republicans treestar Oct 2016 #13
I will be so happy when they're both gone. It's getting tired, need new faces and a much monmouth4 Oct 2016 #4
Joe I have news for you Bill is not running for President Hillary is awake Oct 2016 #5
If this guy upsets so many people on here I have to ask... NoGoodNamesLeft Oct 2016 #7
It's the show we love to hate TuxedoKat Oct 2016 #9
I never watch them either treestar Oct 2016 #14
He's the GOP canary in the coal mine, if he's going nuts the rest of them are going crazy uponit7771 Oct 2016 #17
Because you dont want to exist in an echo chamber. TampaAnimusVortex Oct 2016 #21
Somebody should ask Joe how a dead intern got into his office. book_worm Oct 2016 #8
Again Bill isn't running for President Thrill Oct 2016 #10
That's a two-edged sword.... Adrahil Oct 2016 #12
Some people say Joe murdered his intern Capt. Obvious Oct 2016 #15
Anybody have access to leftynyc Oct 2016 #22

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
6. She refused to opine on the veracity of the latest accusations,
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:02 AM
Oct 2016

Particularly, the one in the NYT. She looked like she was being muzzled, and like her job depended on it.

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
16. I agree, cannot really figure it out but both of them were really different. I broke down to watch
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 10:16 AM
Oct 2016

a little of it & there is something up. For the one obvious thing, I am sure they see the writing on the wall that Clinton is more likely to be the next President & they have done nothing to endear themselves to her & Trump is probably not going to be in very good shape after the election. He has destroyed the Trump brand & a lot of people do not now want to be associated with it. Business is down especially in his hotels over 59% they said at one time. It will be interesting.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
18. I don't think Mika is upset that HRC is winning
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 10:34 AM
Oct 2016

and DT losing. I'm certain she'll vote for Her. But it's as if someone has told them they'll have to share in the blame when dt loses, or that they'll somehow be called to account for something.

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
19. Well, just listening to her. She keeps on & on saying Clinton needs to address about her attacks on
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 11:56 AM
Oct 2016

the women (which absolutely she does not). She keeps on like Clinton needs to get off her high-horse about the emails the speeches. She gives Trump so many passes which is why if she is for Clinton she has a weird way of showing her support.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
3. I didn't know Bill Clinton was running for president?
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 08:32 AM
Oct 2016

plenty of Democrats didn't like what happened with Lewinsky, etc. However, most Democrats also realized that the hyperventilating media and Republicans had blown adultery way out of proportion.

There is also a huge difference between adultery and rape or sexual assault.

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
11. The leading critics of Bill Clinton were guilty of the same offense as they attacked Clinton.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:34 AM
Oct 2016

Newt Gingrich, Dan Burton, Henry Hyde, David Vitter, Bob Livingston and others. They were all having affairs or recently had affairs while they were pontificating on how terrible Clinton's conduct was. That took away any credibility they could have had in their attacks because it was revealed that they were major hypocrites.

I'm not aware of any of Hillary's attacks on Trump being hypocritical. And Trump and his minions are trying to deflect the argument to bring Bill Clinton in the mix, as if his behavior was all Hillary's fault. Quite a leap of logic, but that's standard procedure with Republicans of late.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
13. exactly and as usual the hypocrites are the Republicans
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:43 AM
Oct 2016

Bill Clinton did not do anything so crass. And he can attract women without forcing himself on them. Bill may fail to resist temptation but Don the Con does not tempt any women and therefore has to use his money or power.

awake

(3,226 posts)
5. Joe I have news for you Bill is not running for President Hillary is
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 08:34 AM
Oct 2016

And Hillary has a long history of putting up with Men like Trump and your self Joe.
Wake up and smell your coffee "Morning Joe" oh and while you are at it - Go F*ck Yourself

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
9. It's the show we love to hate
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:28 AM
Oct 2016

also, I like some of their other guests although quite a few of them who are on too often, are just as bad as Joe, including Mark Halperin and Donny Deutsch.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
14. I never watch them either
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:44 AM
Oct 2016

Just secondarily via DU. I think DUers watch to get the latest outrage. Also it is a way to get the RW talking points so as to be able to counter them.

TampaAnimusVortex

(785 posts)
21. Because you dont want to exist in an echo chamber.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:19 PM
Oct 2016

Do you really want to be surrounded by people parroting just what you want to hear? Pretty boring.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
12. That's a two-edged sword....
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:39 AM
Oct 2016

If Democrats defending Bill and attacking Don the Con are hypocritical, then so is any GOPer who called Bill Clinton a disgrace, impeached him and is now using Clinton as an excuse to not hold Cheeto Jeebus accountable.

I have no doubt Clinton was a horn dog an probably did inappropriate things. But he didn't brag about it on the radio and TV. Clinton never publicly claimed he was able to sexually assault women because of his star status. At least some of these claims are simply backing up what Trump himself said he did.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
22. Anybody have access to
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 01:26 PM
Oct 2016

what Joey was saying about Bill Clinton during impeachment? He was just a young congressperson at the time and came in during the 1994 wave. I'm betting his hypocrisy is off the charts on this issue.

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