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TroyD

(4,551 posts)
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:28 PM Nov 2012

Meghan McCain Threatens to Leave Republican Party

November 16, 2012

Meghan McCain: "Times are changing. The face of America is changing and we as Republicans stand at a crossroads. Are we going to accept the changing face of America and change with it? Or are we going to continue to become more isolated and irrelevant? It's possible to maintain the core values of this party and evolve when it comes to social issues. Quite frankly, I don't see any other path to success."

"I've spent most of my adult life fighting for change from inside the Republican Party... And if we don't move forward, adapt, and become relevant again, the Republican Party isn't going to survive. It will just continue to alienate more moderate voters like myself. If I don't see some changes in the next four years, I'm going to consider registering as an Independent in 2016."

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/11/16/meghan_mccain_threatens_to_leave_republican_party.html

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Meghan McCain Threatens to Leave Republican Party (Original Post) TroyD Nov 2012 OP
core values of repubs = racist, sexist, and elitist (the party, not neccesarily all its members) nt msongs Nov 2012 #1
Oh now, that should make them change VirginiaTarheel Nov 2012 #2
I'm kind of surprised FOX hasn't hired her thelordofhell Nov 2012 #3
She's a moderate ReThug...why would FOX be interested. They only Auntie Bush Nov 2012 #54
Why wait 4 years? Maybe she will run for congress? Filibuster Harry Nov 2012 #4
She's going to be too busy caring for Dad...he's going downhill fast and someone... Moonwalk Nov 2012 #51
the party has been a deepening cesspool for years, meghan. what makes you think it will change niyad Nov 2012 #5
Suddenly they all open their eyes sandyshoes17 Nov 2012 #6
Meghan McCain! cheezmaka Nov 2012 #7
I love how she talks as if she is the leader of the party Beaverhausen Nov 2012 #8
She actually has a pretty strong following with young Rep voters. n/t Lucinda Nov 2012 #31
She has a large following among younger Republicans obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #45
Maybe she should start with an intervention with her father. madaboutharry Nov 2012 #9
+100000000 :) n/t Tx4obama Nov 2012 #18
Oh she wants to be one of the FAKE republicans helpisontheway Nov 2012 #10
Just do it. SoapBox Nov 2012 #11
"Daddy, when you yell at kids to get off your lawn, yell "please" too... JHB Nov 2012 #12
Her dad is one of the biggest problems in that party! n/t AlGoreRhythms Nov 2012 #13
no kidding. Meghan should pour a nice cup of hot cocoa for her dad Whisp Nov 2012 #14
+1 hrmjustin Nov 2012 #26
Yeah, right. She'll register I, but still vote R(acist). nt HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #15
Oooooooh They are probably sooooooo scared The empressof all Nov 2012 #16
Threatens suicide, grabs rubber knife from box of stage props. nc4bo Nov 2012 #17
So What? Meghan is even more irrelevant than her beloved party. Tom Ripley Nov 2012 #19
Bless her heart teenagebambam Nov 2012 #20
"I'm going to consider registering as an Independent in 2016." ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #21
She's as irrelevant as her pop Thrill Nov 2012 #22
Meghan isn't going anywhere center rising Nov 2012 #23
"It's possible to maintain the core values of this party and evolve when it comes to social issues." Jamaal510 Nov 2012 #24
She voted for Kerry in 2004 and said so publicly - so it is rather hard to say she never would nt karynnj Nov 2012 #44
Lots of generous .rich vote Democratic as they believe in our social values Auntie Bush Nov 2012 #55
She doesn't belong there anyway. Revolutionary Girl Nov 2012 #25
She's giving them 4 years to Change. Why doesn't she start by demanding it Cha Nov 2012 #27
Go create the FOX NEWS PARTY tufnel Nov 2012 #28
Meghan Meghan Meghan Shilo Nov 2012 #29
She must not be getting enough media attention Mike Daniels Nov 2012 #30
Well, Meghan, your father is one of the most divisive people in politics. Maybe mfcorey1 Nov 2012 #32
Meghan McCain is a democrat who doesn't even know it. bushisanidiot Nov 2012 #33
I've been wondering that for years. She's a Democratic leaning RINO. Auntie Bush Nov 2012 #57
What can she possibly accomplish as an independent? LiberalFighter Nov 2012 #34
"spent most of my adult life.....". Trust fund baby is 28 years old. livetohike Nov 2012 #35
She is far too moderate for them anyway. I think she is a Repub only because Jennicut Nov 2012 #36
Um, it's gonna be an interesting Thanksgiving table at the McCain's this year... CTyankee Nov 2012 #37
First she needs to lock her father in the basement. No one will notice. n/t EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #38
Great idea! And throw the key away. Auntie Bush Nov 2012 #56
Has anyone noticed that daughters are more effective politically than sons juajen Nov 2012 #39
Yes! obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #47
She volunteered to work on a Trump 2012 campaign Adenoid_Hynkel Nov 2012 #40
I do obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #48
This is an interesting story at several levels OmahaBlueDog Nov 2012 #41
children of the Lords have a huge sense of entitlement Sunlei Nov 2012 #42
"We've got to change the GOP so that Meghan McCain doesn't leave us!" Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2012 #43
She is not "crossing the aisle" because of her father obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #46
She is not going to leave the GOP. Third Doctor Nov 2012 #49
no, she won't. There's no celebrity in being a gay rights pushing independent. JanMichael Nov 2012 #50
Reading the Headline, I feared for a second that she was threatening to become a Dem... Moonwalk Nov 2012 #52
Who gives a flying SheilaT Nov 2012 #53

msongs

(67,437 posts)
1. core values of repubs = racist, sexist, and elitist (the party, not neccesarily all its members) nt
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:30 PM
Nov 2012

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
3. I'm kind of surprised FOX hasn't hired her
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:31 PM
Nov 2012

She's blonde..........she's stupid........she thinks she's cute.........she's a legacy........a perfect FOX bimbo

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
54. She's a moderate ReThug...why would FOX be interested. They only
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:04 PM
Nov 2012

like extreme right wingers.

I actually think she's pretty good for a ReThug. If all the other Rethugs felt the same we'd have a much tighter election...so let's hope they don't listen to her.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
51. She's going to be too busy caring for Dad...he's going downhill fast and someone...
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:41 PM
Nov 2012

...will have to walk the angry old fart around the grounds, making sure he does't get himself into trouble.

niyad

(113,527 posts)
5. the party has been a deepening cesspool for years, meghan. what makes you think it will change
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:40 PM
Nov 2012

in the next four years?

sandyshoes17

(657 posts)
6. Suddenly they all open their eyes
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:45 PM
Nov 2012

The whole campaign was one big hate fest. Each one trying to out hate the other. Convention a bunch of miserable haters.
Than there is us, happy, hopeful, joyful convention. Lots of positive energy. People from all walks of life coming together for a better country. And they just don't understand what went wrong. Ahh

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
8. I love how she talks as if she is the leader of the party
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:48 PM
Nov 2012

She is so full of herself- just like her dear old dad.

obamanut2012

(26,111 posts)
45. She has a large following among younger Republicans
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 08:59 AM
Nov 2012

Including having a large twitter presence (and over 213,000 followers -- I just checked).

helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
10. Oh she wants to be one of the FAKE republicans
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:50 PM
Nov 2012

That call themselves Independents. They are actually Republicans that pretend to be independents because they are embarrassed to have the Republican label. She would never vote for a democrat.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
11. Just do it.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:50 PM
Nov 2012

...I will give her a SMALL round of applause, if she does.

Dem or Independent, I'll be waiting to see what she picks AND what direction she takes in making America better for everyone.

And I personally wonder, did she finally reach the breaking point when her nasty father, jumped on the Rice / Libya thing?

p.s....I've seen Thomas Roberts talking to her several times and he always says stuff like, "...you know that I really love you but..." Maybe he can help to talk some sense into her.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
12. "Daddy, when you yell at kids to get off your lawn, yell "please" too...
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:57 PM
Nov 2012

You won't seem so mean and cranky that way."

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
14. no kidding. Meghan should pour a nice cup of hot cocoa for her dad
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:01 PM
Nov 2012

and ask him why he's such a fucking douchenozzle.

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
16. Oooooooh They are probably sooooooo scared
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:12 PM
Nov 2012

So now they are all parroting these "moderate" talking points. God they disgust me. This one and that boy on NBC should be thanking their lucky stars they were born privileged or they would very well be working in the back of returns section at a K Mart in Kentucky.

She's an idiot and it annoys the heck out of me that she gets any attention what so ever.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
17. Threatens suicide, grabs rubber knife from box of stage props.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:14 PM
Nov 2012

Leave the GOP and register as an "I" that will vote for an "R" anyway - - whatever Meghan.

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
19. So What? Meghan is even more irrelevant than her beloved party.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:22 PM
Nov 2012

"I've spent most of my adult life fighting for change from inside the Republican Party..."
What is that, a grueling eight years?
What a fucking drama queen.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
21. "I'm going to consider registering as an Independent in 2016."
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:31 PM
Nov 2012

....and then still vote for Republicans.

center rising

(971 posts)
23. Meghan isn't going anywhere
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:30 PM
Nov 2012

I like her for fighting against Republicans on social issues, but I doubt she'll leave daddy's party!!

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
24. "It's possible to maintain the core values of this party and evolve when it comes to social issues."
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:49 PM
Nov 2012

So, Meghan, what core values does your party have anyway (besides anarcho-capitalism)?

I think she's just bluffing and seeking attention. I mean who else is she going to vote for besides the GOP? The Libertarian Party? And her family's rich, so there's no way she'll ever vote for a Democrat.

25. She doesn't belong there anyway.
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:53 PM
Nov 2012

I've seen her on Morning Joe. She's a liberal in Republican clothing. It's only a matter of time until she defects to the Democratic party, where she belongs.

Cha

(297,554 posts)
27. She's giving them 4 years to Change. Why doesn't she start by demanding it
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:44 AM
Nov 2012

from her father? Senator John BitterLies McCain?

Mike Daniels

(5,842 posts)
30. She must not be getting enough media attention
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 07:00 AM
Nov 2012

Jesus, did she sleep through the Romney campaign? Did she think Romney was supportive of anything she cared for and it was the mean ol' tea baggers that cost him the election?

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
32. Well, Meghan, your father is one of the most divisive people in politics. Maybe
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:28 PM
Nov 2012

a good conversation at home might alleviate some of your concerns.

bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)
33. Meghan McCain is a democrat who doesn't even know it.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:33 PM
Nov 2012

i would challenge her to name ONE thing that she agrees with concerning the republican party that the democrats don't also agree with. ONE uniquely republican value. i don't think there is one.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
57. I've been wondering that for years. She's a Democratic leaning RINO.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:15 PM
Nov 2012

If she keeps it up she'll land right in our camp.

LiberalFighter

(51,054 posts)
34. What can she possibly accomplish as an independent?
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:23 PM
Nov 2012

What does she find wrong with the Democratic Party?

livetohike

(22,157 posts)
35. "spent most of my adult life.....". Trust fund baby is 28 years old.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:25 PM
Nov 2012

Thanks for the laugh Meghan, I guess those four years since your Daddy lost the Presidency seems like a really, long time to you.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
36. She is far too moderate for them anyway. I think she is a Repub only because
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:29 PM
Nov 2012

of her father.
My parents are conservative and I rebelled by 16 against their thinking.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
40. She volunteered to work on a Trump 2012 campaign
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:26 PM
Nov 2012

Proving that money doesn't buy intelligence or dignity.
Who gives a shit what this pampered daddy's girl has to say?

obamanut2012

(26,111 posts)
48. I do
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 09:04 AM
Nov 2012

She has a large following among youth voters, and could very well help sway a generation of "Republican Because I Was Born Republican" younger voters.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
41. This is an interesting story at several levels
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:43 PM
Nov 2012

Election 2012 will be disected by Political Scientists for the next 20 years. One big reason is that this was the election when the reliable, go-to wedge issues just failed to pay back. Abortion caused Republicans to lose two Senate seays they seemd certain to win. Gay marriage -- an issue that has brought social conservatives to the polls in droves since the Clinton era -- has now become the law of the land in two states as the result of the popular vote -- not the courts. Marijuana for recreational use was approved in two states, and the death penalty was eliminated in California. I wn't pretend either the GOP or conservatism are dead, but this election demonstrated that the strategy they used from 1980-2004 with success needs to be rethought.

Meghan McCain probably represents the thoughts of many Republicans -- especially those who've voted for Ron Paul the past two elections. They want smaller government and lower taxes, but they don't want excessive intervention in their personal lives. However I wonder about something else -- is she positioning herself to run for her father's seat? Does she realize that the numbers -- long run -- wont favor the Brewers and the Sherriff Joes, and she wants to position herself as a new kind of conservative.

That leads to an even bigger question: you operate a conservative superPAC. Right now, you feel angry and ripped off. Do you bet on the GOP again in 2016, or do you start to find independent candidates. Candidiates who support key positions on taxes, spending, and entitlements, but who are far more centrist on issues you don't care about. You wouldn't do worse than you did in this election, and who better than an independent to say "the system is broken and neither party has an answer?"

obamanut2012

(26,111 posts)
46. She is not "crossing the aisle" because of her father
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 09:02 AM
Nov 2012

I am betting she will after he dies or retires.

The Bush Twins, I bet money, vote Dem, but don't say anything publicly because of their father and grandfather.

Meghan McCain is smart and articulate, and also has a ready platform. I hope she does "come out" as a Dem in the future.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
49. She is not going to leave the GOP.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:06 PM
Nov 2012

After the first debate she defended and praised Romney and seemed to forget the 47% remark. She is just mad that her side keeps losing badly through their own stubborness. If they win a bit soon this statement will go away.

JanMichael

(24,890 posts)
50. no, she won't. There's no celebrity in being a gay rights pushing independent.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:22 PM
Nov 2012

Sorry...she LOVES the controversy. Keeps her in the news.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
52. Reading the Headline, I feared for a second that she was threatening to become a Dem...
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:46 PM
Nov 2012
But, no, she's just going to head over to the next door neighbor's house. *Sigh of Relief!* We dodged a bullet there.
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
53. Who gives a flying
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:31 PM
Nov 2012

fuck what she things?

The ONLY reason any of us have ever heard of her is because she had the foresight to get born to John McCain. Otherwise, she has no qualifications of any kind for anything other than perhaps working at WalMart.

The few times I've seen her speak she decidedly does not come across as articulate or well informed or particularly well educated. She does come across as entitled.

Too bad she doesn't have to get a real job on her actual merits.

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