2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI think, the Trump-family will break apart after the election.
The odds for HRC winning are calculated to be at 79+%, so I guess that's as good as done.
What about Donald Trump?
He's no real estate developer. He left that business long ago. He's making money by renting his name to other venues.
Except that his name is now toxic. One "Trump"-hotel received so much backlash and loss of customers, they had to issue a press-release that they aren't actually affiliated with him.
Who will want to rent his name after the election?
Who will want to keep renting his brand after the election?
What about Melania Trump?
He dragged her into this campaign. He ridiculed her in front of the whole nation by assigning her a speech-writer who plagiarized.
Her name, her brand, in high-society is forever tarred by being associated with him.
And she has to face that she's married to a choleric, narcisstic, misogynistic abuser. He won't take it out on her? Why not? I bet, she realizes that there's a side of him that she didn't want to be true. But now it has become undeniable.
Maybe she will divorce him, get herself a new man aged 40-50 (who actually looks good and actually treats her nice), and make some money in the media-circus with a tell-all-book.
She has the looks, she's from the fashion-industry. If she plays it right, she can harvest the publicity of being his ex-wife without being associated with the negativity.
What about Ivanka Trump?
Like Melania, she has had to realize that her father is a swine. That's hard. That hurts. You thought you know your parents and then they turn out to be someone else.
Not only that: Ivanka has always tried to defend her father when he was accused of being a misogynist. She really believed in him, she really stood by him and wanted to protect him. And now it turned out that he has betrayed her trust by not being the man she thought he was.
After the news of the tape broke, her husband Jared Kushner visited Trump. That's not the kind of impromptu visit you do to surprise somebody during good times. I bet, Ivanka sent Jared to her own father to find out whether the tapes are real. To find out whether he really is that horrible person.
She sent Jared because she was in shock.
She sent Jared because she couldn't stomach the thought of being around her own father.
What about Donald Jr. and Eric Trump?
Well, they used to be the crown-princes of a financial empire. Now Donald Trump has destroyed the Trump brand. He has destroyed the legacy he wanted to leave to them by pursuing his self-destructive desire to gain more publicity and more power. I don't believe they are taking this lightly.
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BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)It's unbelievable.
lapfog_1
(29,219 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)After all, didn't the Conald say it had to be a 400 lb. hacker, or something?
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)I don't know if it's true or not. He's not trotted out or exposed to the public at all.
hlthe2b
(102,343 posts)24/7... Doesn't seem quite typical...
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)The kid is only 10 and I'm sure is father is not an involved parent.
And Donald blew off his second daughter like a bad real estate deal . Melanias is a bad situation.
MADem
(135,425 posts)There's a genetic risk due to sperm mutation when old men become fathers:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2564752/Dont-leave-late-children-MEN-warned-research-finds-older-dads-likely-mutant-sperm.html
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Sometimes it's not smart to mess with Mother Nature.
kimbutgar
(21,181 posts)He reminds me of a kid on the autism spectrum. I work with kids on the spectrum. They can function in public for a time. But experiencing large nosy crowds can be difficult for them.
It would hurt his reputation of genetic superiority if he had a son who was disabled.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Hasn't Trump been an anti-vaxer? This would not be consistent for him to give a shit about any anything or anybody if it didn't affect HIM.
uponit7771
(90,359 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)The two asshole boykids looked like drugged out Children of the Con, blank-faced asswipes.
That bit that Hillary said, at the end, about how lovely his children were was a two-edged sword of some sort. Ivanka and Chelsea are friendly acquaintances, if not friends--I'm guessing there was some point to be made there, even if we didn't see it.
brush
(53,840 posts)good on the spot about that misogynist, racist, anti-everything creep was not easy, but she nailed it.
She can think on her feet.
wishstar
(5,271 posts)But I have changed my mind the more I have seen and heard about him over the past year- I think the moms did all the child raising with high expectations since he is so critical and he has controlled the kids with his domineering personality and wealthy lifestyle. He has rewarded them for obeying his commands- like good subjects obeying their sovereign king- and they are afraid to cross him as he has a vicious mean streak.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)after Ivanka's husband tried to sit Paula Jones and Co. in the Trump family box.
MADem
(135,425 posts)hlthe2b
(102,343 posts)refused to kiss him after the big debacle.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi6-LOc_9DPAhUZS2MKHaqFAm8QqQIIJjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usmagazine.com%2Fcelebrity-news%2Fnews%2Ftiffany-trump-ducked-a-kiss-from-donald-trump-at-second-debate-watch-w444089&usg=AFQjCNFxcf44IZ7uQciy3OGhIzKaa0B0Ew
Sorry for the long link, but couldn't readily covert it on my iphone
Freddie
(9,273 posts)He had very little to do with raising her. Probably the smartest too.
BlueWarrior
(94 posts)Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)She's all in for his scumbaggery, despite media efforts to make her look reasonable and so above the fray.
She's daddy's little girl and every bit as ugly inside and willing to exploit sweatshop labor as he is.
kimbutgar
(21,181 posts)Furious with ivanka and Jared.
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)My guess is that both Melania and Ivanka will be nowhere to be seen, probably Tiffany also.
tblue37
(65,483 posts)Ivanka's husband was part of the gang who orchestrated the attempt to ambush Bill Clinton with those 4 paid-off women accusing him and Hillary of abusing them.
Ivanka and Melania are not innocents who had no idea about Trump's behavior.
MBS
(9,688 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Maybe as soon as the polls close in the Eastern time zone.
FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)They all looked like they just ate a lemon!
frogmarch
(12,158 posts)what he is, and that they always have.
Lanius
(599 posts)the Trump name is ruined forever and the family is forced to withdraw from the public eye for a generation.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)Well, according to various sources, Ivanka's husband, Jared Kushner, was the maestro behind the idea to fly in the Clinton accusers and sit them in the family's VIP box. (See further up thread).
Also, per several sources, Ivanka and Jared, seem to be the "masterminds" behind the tRump electoral engine. She wan't in shock at finding out about her father. She already knew what kind of man he was. Jared went to do their dirty work. If anything, she is in shock because the tRump brand that she has milked like a dairy cow is becoming worthless day-by-day.