2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAre you watching AMJoy???
She just explained to some white guy that he did not speak for the African American community.
She also pointed out that a poll of 400 people is meaningless. She know her facts.
I don't think she called him on calling Ben Carson a "leader in the African American community".....I doubt that he is.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)His argument was evangelicals need to exercise compassion and forgive Donald Trump for all the racist and sexist shit he's said in the past
HipChick
(25,485 posts)no self-respecting African American will be voting for him...will be -1%
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)In fact, that's more than enough of a sample size for a poll to be statistically significant.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)It has nothing to do with the number of respondents.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I am saying that a poll of 400 people is not meaningless.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)She was speaking about that LA Times poll about which Nate Silver has said this:
"This has been a fairly consistent difference between this poll and most others. Take the LA Times poll, add 6 points to Clinton, and you usually wind up with something close to the FiveThirtyEight or RealClearPolitics national polling average. Whats the source of the LA Times polls Trump lean? There are good explainers from The New York Timess Nate Cohn and Huffington Post Pollsters David Rothschild. Long story short: The polls results are weighted based on how people said they voted in 2012. Thats probably a mistake, because people often misstate or misremember their vote from previous elections."
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I was just responding to that one particular statement from the poster of the OP. I think it is a common misperception that one needs a thousand plus people for a survey to be valid. It was not meant to be directed to this specific poll in particular. Not trying to derail the discussion, just a minor point of fact.
Mchill17
(13 posts)but she implied it was about the sample size, not it's historical results. If it is like the Gallup Daily Tracking poll, they only have 500 respondents daily, but they do a rolling average over the last 3 results with a margin of error of 3%.
Foggyhill
(1,060 posts)Of the underlying population
If you game your poll to get
White undereducated men from red states, your poll only tells you info on that pop, not the general population
A 400 people poll has a huge margin of error even when done under the most scientific conditions (expensive) which most are not
Around 6%
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)Great way to deal with his BS
He was a very persisten little shitbag.
Lying his ass off.
Well done Joy. You overcame his crap.
TNNurse
(6,927 posts)SCRUBDASHRUB
(7,252 posts)BSdetect
(8,998 posts)That pro drumph idiot was so bigoted for drumph it made me feel sick
Ace Rothstein
(3,164 posts)Awesome.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Ace Rothstein
(3,164 posts)It was blurred out on the screen but she read the whole tweet.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)Sounding like he is very worried that whatever he's been up to is about to explode.
Trying to prepare us to "forgive" him and show "compassion".
Never seen such cringeworthy crap.
Foggyhill
(1,060 posts)Biased sample, say white men in West Virginia
Often self selected sample, made in a place or web site to attract a GOP response
Bad questions, leading questions, bad interview technique
Small sample with huge margins of error even if the poll was done correctly
These polls are done to generate talking points, not for info
TNNurse
(6,927 posts)TNNurse
(6,927 posts)I should have made clearer that she knew details about the validity of the poll outside of it's size.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Jerry Springer, Trump's progenitor
he was very good, very outraged that he got as far as he did
TNNurse
(6,927 posts)I am going to watch Lone Ranger reruns....even the poor portrayal of a Native American is better than seeing this Trump obscenity.
Oooh, Hugh Beaumont (Beaver's father) is on this one.
Tomorrow is my birthday and I am showing my age.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)yesterday. took a break to buy a new computer at Costco, so I could post at faster than dialup speed.
back at it for the schadenfreude rush
dunno how long itll last til the msm starts beating back up on Hillary
did you ever hear the Jay Thomas/Clayton Moore story? he used to tell it on Letterman every XMas for years
the radio version is MUCH better....very dirty....involving a suitcase full of sex toys, IIRC