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struggle4progress

(118,290 posts)
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:48 AM Nov 2012

Ron Paul's Last Speech to Congress: 30+ Strangely Ordered Questions

Conor Friedersdorf
Nov 15 2012, 6:00 AM ET

... His sprawling, poorly organized, deeply principled remarks lasted nearly 48 minutes ...

Here they are in the order he asked them:

Why are sick people who use medical marijuana put in prison?

Why does the federal government restrict the drinking of raw milk?

Why can't Americans manufacturer rope and other products from hemp? ....

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/ron-pauls-last-speech-to-congress-30-strangely-ordered-questions/265263/

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nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
1. Stopped clock....twice a day.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:59 AM
Nov 2012

Hey, I stopped counting at 8 or 9 on his list probably could check off a few more where I have asked myself the same questions.

But overall, Paul's brand of Libertarian and my brand of Liberalism are otherwise not compatible.

Aristus

(66,380 posts)
3. As far as the prohibition on raw milk goes: if someone died or became very ill after drinking it,
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:02 PM
Nov 2012

I guarantee you, someone would complain: "Why wasn't something done about this? Why didn't the government stop this?"

I'm a student of human nature. We complain that the government is too involved in our lives, but when something goes wrong, we complain that the government should have done something to prevent it.

struggle4progress

(118,290 posts)
5. I'm not a Paulist. I think the modern hygienic rules, such as the pasteurizing of milk in commerce,
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:09 PM
Nov 2012

are perfectly sensible

JEFF9K

(1,935 posts)
4. Liberty.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 12:03 PM
Nov 2012

Ron Paul loves to toss around the word "liberty." Who could be against that? He gets a lot of supporters just from nonsense like that. He's wrong on most things, yet is more worthy of admiration than 99% of Republicans.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
6. It seems he's only interested in liberty inasmuch as it can be limited by the federal government.
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 01:02 PM
Nov 2012

I don't think he gives a shit if state or local governments or private entities threaten our liberty.

JEFF9K

(1,935 posts)
8. spread the liberty
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:04 PM
Nov 2012

I'm thinking that rich people have a thousand times as much liberty as poor people. Would Ron Paul approve of steeply progressive taxes to help the poor and increase their liberty? I don't think so.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
7. One question I'd like to ask Paul:
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 02:41 PM
Nov 2012

"What in FUCK'S NAME have you ever done in your congressional career to answer any of your rhetorical bullshit?"

Why Paul gets away with the pretense that he's been some kind of helpless, powerless bystander in all this, I will never know...

But I'm glad he went out in the typical fashion his cultists love: Rambling, incoherent, hypocritical and shamelessly contradictory, and he still can't leave without giving a nod to his little fascist wet dream:

"Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it's the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority?"

Yes Paulites, your staunch "defender of constitutional freedoms" just took a piss on the bedrock of our Founding Fathers' vision for this nation's political structure...

Hopefully, this will be the last I ever see or hear from you and your sycophants...GTFO of this people's congress, crawl back under that rock in Galveston, and don't ever come back...

Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #7)

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
11. You said - "you supp rt fascists you mindless "liberal"
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:59 PM
Nov 2012

When you joined DU a message was sent to you stating that this is a website for liberals. Looks like you forgot to read it.

See you around.

Cirque du So-What

(25,939 posts)
14. Irony, thy name is PaulBot
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:16 PM
Nov 2012

Posting an incoherent dog's breakfast to vouch for Ron Paul's clarity of thought is the height of irony.

livetohike

(22,144 posts)
12. Ron Paul has provoked lots of thought during his career. The first thought is: He's nuts.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:01 PM
Nov 2012

What has he actually accomplished as a Congressman? 23 years of taxpayer funded salary and benefits and few if any accomplishments.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ron-pauls-house-record-stands-out-for-its-futility-and-tenacity/2011/12/23/gIQA5ioVJP_story.html

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
15. And there's this classic from a couple of months ago:
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 12:25 PM
Nov 2012

Ron Paul, a longtime champion of government accountability, was given a “dishonorable mention” by a government watchdog group in its annual list of “Most Corrupt Members of Congress” released yesterday.

The report from the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington highlights allegations of unethical behavior by members of Congress. CREW blew the whistle on the 12-term Republican representative from Lake Jackson for allegedly double-billing travel expenses between Washington, D.C., and his home district on Texas’s Gulf Coast.

CREW, a Washington-based nonprofit, cited reports by Roll Call that accused Paul of billing both his tax-payer funded congressional allowance and libertarian non-profit groups such as the Liberty Committee for trips made between 1999 and 2009.

“Rep. Paul has continually called on Congress to audit the Federal Reserve, but apparently somebody needs to take a closer look at his financial records,” CREW Executive Director Melanie Sloan said in a statement issued upon the release of the report. ”It’s absurd that Rep. Paul was able to engage in this scheme for so long without anyone noticing. The House should conduct a full investigation to ensure taxpayers are compensated for every dollar he misappropriated.”

President of the Liberty Committee David James said his organization reimbursed Paul for trips made to give speeches or attend events in which the congressman supported the committee, some of which Paul made to Washington while congress was not in session. James described Paul as a “great asset” to the committee.

However, according to an audit conducted by the Liberty Committee, 60 percent of the travel expenses Paul charged to the organization were for trips made between Washington D.C. and his home district for official business, totaling $20,000 in expenses that are legally obligated to come out of his congressional budget, James said.

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/09/ron-paul-makes-watchdog-groups-list-of-most-corrupt-members-of-congress/

http://www.crewsmostcorrupt.org/mostcorrupt

I'm glad I was able to draw one last Paulbot out of the woodwork before they became extinct...I'm going to miss their constant monitoring of the entire internet; ready to instantly defend their dear leader against any negative comments...

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
9. I admit it's kinda sad that Ron Paul is leaving
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 10:01 PM
Nov 2012

because he was right about more issues than the rest of his party combined. I wonder since he is jumping ship, who else will his loyal cult members look up to in the future. Will they perhaps turn to Gary Johnson, or continue to jack off to Ron Paul videos on YouTube?

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