2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIsn't it time for us to shut this Benghazi "conspiracy" thing down?
I do not know about you but I want to focus on jobs. Why let the GOP dominate the air space with Benghazi?
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libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)so I don't see it dying anytime soon
Polldancer2012
(88 posts)Benghazi needs to be investigated (and it is) and the WH will release the findings when its complete. After all involved are exonerated we can move on.
enlightenment
(8,830 posts)everyone is going to be exonerated, why bother with an investigation?
JustAnotherGen
(31,931 posts)enlightenment
(8,830 posts)but I think we're not really agreeing, if I'm reading your other post in this thread correctly.
My comment was asking why bother having an investigation if the results will be that no one was responsible for anything? Why would anyone assume, before an investigation, that will be the result?
The purpose of an investigation is to determine if there was a failure by someone at some point, in some fashion. Not necessarily a culpable guilt, but a break-down of procedure or something similar that needs to be rectified in order to help prevent a future tragedy.
Deciding before hand that no one will be found culpable in any fashion (exonerated) makes an investigation moot, and at that point it would be easier to just say "no one is responsible for anything to do with this incident" and move on.
That wouldn't be right, though. Regardless of what the RW is squawking about, people died and their deaths deserve to be investigated - if only to assure that whatever the causes, they are anticipated and addressed should they happen again.
JustAnotherGen
(31,931 posts)If we are talking methods and procedures so - Never This Way Pass Again - then I'm for it.
ETA - We might disagree on what we are looking for though - PCIntern sums it up pretty well right here -
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1807810
enlightenment
(8,830 posts)You're correct that we are probably a bit at odds over intent - I always lean more toward the "if you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras" philosophy (unless you're on the Serengeti, of course), so I'm rarely convinced that there is a grand plan about most things.
Obviously, I could well be wrong and hopefully the truth, whatever it turns out to be, is revealed.
JustAnotherGen
(31,931 posts)I don't care about it - AT ALL.
Jobs, Infrastructure, Prosperity . . . That's all I care about right now.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)was doing in Benghazi, particularly about the smuggling of Libyan missiles and terrorists to Syria and elsewhere within the region
If the Administration were forthcoming about that, and candidly revealed what U.S. policies and actions were (and are), then this would go away.
during those Bush years where he carried on with this cloud of secrecy for years right before the start of the war and there aft er ...issues about haliburton, private militias in Iraq...outing agents people being killed...lies, not answering questions during the few press conferences he had....unbelievable shit....now these wingnuts are real self righteous....its ridiculous.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)The President has this under control and he can multitask really well.
I hope the Republicans keep talking about Benghazi - makes them look like idiots.
PoliticalBiker
(328 posts)in the empty heads of the right-wingers echo chamber. Lots of bouncing around space.
They will continue their conspiracy-laden redux in an effort to justify the pasting they got in the election.
The TRUTH is above their paygrade.... and comprehension.
Raggaemon
(68 posts)Imagine using Facebook "likes" as a measure between two competing ideas and one set of ideas gets a majority of the "likes", the loser says, their ideas weren't rejected, it was just that the other ideas got more "likes" .... maybe a dead giveaway why they lost ? Head in the sands of denial syndrome.
So here comes John McCain, why is this man still given so much credibility anyway ? and his co-hort Lindsay Graham fighting a desperate fight to hold on to the last vestiges on an era gone by, when affirmative action meant "For White Males Only". They don't care about the election results, it didn't mean much to them beyond saving their Alamo from being overtaken by "others". These people are like rabid dogs, they believe it's in the best interest of the public for them to keep attacking Obama, even after 4 years of doing so turned against them.
Nothing would please these die-hards than if they were able to convince enough of their flock that impeachment hearings should be convened, just find a good enough reason. With the GOP congress job approval rating in the toilet bowl, and with the election outcome data clearly showing that the Grumpy Old Patriach party has lost ground across nearly every voter demographic, and with the real threat they they face in potentially losing an entire generation of young voters, they persist going down the same road that caused them to lose the most "likes".
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)That Went bad.
In which case, lets see how far up the Republican food chain it actually goes.