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Don't care who won a close VP debate. I care who beat up the opponents Presidential (Original Post) stevenleser Oct 2016 OP
Even FAUX news is calling it a draw cause Kaine's objective was meat and Pence set him uponit7771 Oct 2016 #1
Fox draw = Kane win... Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #3
Yes, the one commentator said it twice that Kaine was there to throw out the tRump nasty uponit7771 Oct 2016 #4
And his insistence that women Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #6
Yup, Donald J tRump lost the VP debate bigly and big league. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #2
Kaine did his job and set Trump up for Hillary on Sunday ... Greywing Oct 2016 #5
Agreed Gothmog Oct 2016 #7
A good summation I saw elsewhere Bradical79 Oct 2016 #8
That really is well said. Thanks for posting it! Nt stevenleser Oct 2016 #9

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
1. Even FAUX news is calling it a draw cause Kaine's objective was meat and Pence set him
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:23 PM
Oct 2016

... himself up for 2020.

No one watched this but the civics class nerds

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
4. Yes, the one commentator said it twice that Kaine was there to throw out the tRump nasty
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:26 PM
Oct 2016

... they're illuding to Pence in 2020 but I think Pence is done after this... the stench of tRump will be too sKrong with him

Blue Idaho

(5,052 posts)
6. And his insistence that women
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:30 PM
Oct 2016

Cannot be allowed to decide on abortion for themselves. Only the government can be allowed to legislate morality for all women. That old crap is toxic now and will only get worse.

Greywing

(1,124 posts)
5. Kaine did his job and set Trump up for Hillary on Sunday ...
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:28 PM
Oct 2016

going in for the kill so to speak. Trump try to say the things Pence said tonight but he'll be in a town hall setting and Hillary will get him flustered as she calls him out on his lies. Kaine also had a great line when Pence kept trying to say Trump had paid millions in taxes. Kaine said how do you know ... there's no proof because he hasn't released his taxed ... how do you know?

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
8. A good summation I saw elsewhere
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:48 PM
Oct 2016

Kaine did the job of making Clinton look better than Trump, while Pence focused on making himself look better than Kaine. The "winner" of the VP debate really doesn't mean a whole lot. The more important thing from the debate was making sure Pence couldn't just cleanly pile on to Hillary Clinton with the usual lies, while also drawing attention to the stark contrast of Clinton and Trump and their suitability for the job.

I thought Kaine was pretty effective in showing how amateur hour Trump is when Pence said "Look, he's not a polished politician" and really couldn't take his defense any further when Kaine brought up punishing women. I see that small bit getting a lot of play, and is a perfect quote for twitter. People will remember two things about the debate. Kaine interupting early, and Pence throwing Trump under the bus. One of those is much more important to the 2016 election than the other.

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