2016 Postmortem

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts) Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:01 PM Oct 2016

Look for a very modest Trump bump, reflecting Republican enthusiasm

Republicans loved what they heard. He was an effective advocate for generic wingnuttiness.

Didn't move any votes, but there will be a polling change due to response rates and likely voter screens.

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Look for a very modest Trump bump, reflecting Republican enthusiasm (Original Post) geek tragedy Oct 2016 OP

No DarthDem Oct 2016 #1

The nuts who are already for Trump felt he did well book_worm Oct 2016 #2

Nope BlueInPhilly Oct 2016 #3

I don't vadermike Oct 2016 #4

Doubt it Doctor Jack Oct 2016 #5

Perhaps, but I don't think there are anymore voters to get - asiliveandbreathe Oct 2016 #6

Blah blah Dem2 Oct 2016 #7

It's only going to get worse for Trump The_Casual_Observer Oct 2016 #8

Doubt it. If They Are Republican, They Already Are Voting for Trump... TomCADem Oct 2016 #9

NeverTrump types will be more enthusiastic geek tragedy Oct 2016 #14

The point's been made that Pence mainly laid groundwork for 2020. calimary Oct 2016 #10

odds makers say Hillary will get the bump.. chillfactor Oct 2016 #11

Don't think so. Pence did not defend their Fuehrer enough. They are pissed. Christie Mamajami Oct 2016 #12

No, no one watched this... 25% of the US population watched the first debate uponit7771 Oct 2016 #13

Nope GulfCoast66 Oct 2016 #15

I think they could lose some young supporters and have a drop NoGoodNamesLeft Oct 2016 #16

Kaine should have hit Pence harder on that democrattotheend Oct 2016 #17

DarthDem

(5,256 posts)

1. No

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:02 PM

Oct 2016

There won't be any discernible impact. At all.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)

2. The nuts who are already for Trump felt he did well

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:03 PM

Oct 2016

while the HRC partisans believe Kaine won. I don't see any bump due to this debate either way.

BlueInPhilly

(870 posts)

3. Nope

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:04 PM

Oct 2016

vadermike

(1,416 posts)

4. I don't

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:04 PM

Oct 2016

See it either Now if it was the Presidential yes Not VP imo

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)

5. Doubt it

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:04 PM

Oct 2016

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)

6. Perhaps, but I don't think there are anymore voters to get -

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:05 PM

Oct 2016

Don the cons ceiling has been met - not more than 43% - if that...we will have to wait and see..

Dem2

(8,168 posts)

7. Blah blah

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:05 PM

Oct 2016

Stop being so cautious. Ok, actually I don't blame you, this cycle is annoying.

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)

8. It's only going to get worse for Trump

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:05 PM

Oct 2016

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)

9. Doubt it. If They Are Republican, They Already Are Voting for Trump...

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:07 PM

Oct 2016

...you do not change your vote based on the bottom half of the ticket unless the bottom half looks like a complete idiot. Heck, even Dan Quayle did not cost Bush the election.

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)

14. NeverTrump types will be more enthusiastic

Reply to TomCADem (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:21 PM

Oct 2016

No votes moved.

calimary

(81,419 posts)

10. The point's been made that Pence mainly laid groundwork for 2020.

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:09 PM

Oct 2016

He was not trying to help Trump so much as help himself, four years from now.

chillfactor

(7,580 posts)

11. odds makers say Hillary will get the bump..

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:14 PM

Oct 2016

link as posted by Doctor Jack earlier tonight: http://predictwise.com/politics/

Mamajami

(257 posts)

12. Don't think so. Pence did not defend their Fuehrer enough. They are pissed. Christie

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:16 PM

Oct 2016

was their man.

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)

13. No, no one watched this... 25% of the US population watched the first debate

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:21 PM

Oct 2016

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)

15. Nope

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:50 PM

Oct 2016

Next polls will reflect tRumps PTSD comment.

And the ones after that, well no one will remember this debate. Except for maybe the Abortion line and the Mexican line. Both hurt Pence.

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)

16. I think they could lose some young supporters and have a drop

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Oct 5, 2016, 12:00 AM

Oct 2016

Over the abortion discussion. And might lose more over Trump's financial scandals.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)

17. Kaine should have hit Pence harder on that

Reply to NoGoodNamesLeft (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 5, 2016, 12:02 AM

Oct 2016

I think Kaine made a mistake focusing entirely on what Trump said and not hitting Pence on his own anti-choice extremism.

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